Globally, Ford is an ant compared to Hyundai Motor Group, so there's no question that Hyundai offers the bigger lineup whether it's cars or crossovers. But in the context of trucks, there's no denying Ford is king, especially in the American market. In that context, Ford has a more widespread lineup of trucks, but more importantly it's their reputation for trucks that leads people to them. That's why the Maverick sells, and also the mediocre Explorer (which was based on a truck not that long ago). Merely having a widespread lineup of trucks doesn't guarantee sales, just ask Toyota.

If Ford had no trucks, they would have zero appeal as a brand outside of maybe the Mustang.

 

Check the receipts below...

"significantly larger...."

So how was that quoted incorrectly?

I never said the Maverick wasn't larger than the Santa Cruz, I said it's 4 inches, but no one is going to be able to discern that difference in length.

Reminds me why I took a pause from Car Chat.

 

4 inches, in this particular vehicle class IMO is significant....it would not be significant, for example, with Suburbans or Expeditions. You are free to disagree....and I will respect that view. But let's do it politely.

 

Ok. So he said it was significantly larger. My bad. I apologize. It does look significantly larger in person. I’ve seen them both and it appears that way. Perception is a big thing….take Tacoma where Toyota has added like 1.5 feet of front end the radiator to make the Tacoma look larger than it really is. They also add height to the front sheetmetal as well

 

4 inches is not significant...

 

Fine. We can disagree politely.

But have you seen a Maverick up close, and/or reviewed one? As Jill says (and I totally agree) the 4 inches (and the styling) give the impression of a larger vehicle.

Here's a side profile of both vehicles, at roughly the same scale. IMO, the Maverick looks substantially more.....well, substantial.

 

Your pictures are nowhere near the same scale.

 

Yeah nowhere near the same scale lol

Just admit you thought the Maverick was much bigger, and in fact it isn't. No big deal.

 

When I am wrong, I admit it...which I have done a number of times. My eyes don't lie. Neither do Jill's. And I never said it was MUCH bigger....the numbers give it about 4" in length. Some of the difference is, like I said earlier, an impression from how the cabin and bed are styled.

 

Anyhow, IMO enough about exterior size. Here's an interesting stat on the Hybrid......some owners are getting up to 600 miles combined on gas/electric power. This is especially interesting considering that previous Ford Hybrids (such as the C-Max) have been criticized for under-performing in that department.

https://www.hotcars.com/ford-maveric...ressive-range/

Ford Maverick Owners Are Getting Seriously Impressive Range On One Tank

BY HENRY KELSALL
PUBLISHED 11 HOURS AGO

One forum member claims to have gotten almost 600 miles in the hybrid model.
via FordThe Ford Maverick is the smallest truck that the Blue Oval currently produces, and the hybrid version brings the truck right into the 21st century. Since its launch, the 2022 Maverick seems to be outperforming what its predicted range expectations were.

A report from Muscle Cars & Trucks citing the Maverick Truck Club Forum suggests that owners have been able to eke out nearly 600 miles per tank with their hybrid versions of the Maverick.

Exceptional Levels Of Fuel Mileage

via Maverick Truck ClubThe highlight of this report comes from an image posted by forum user Mavforever. This image shows off their recent trip statistics, and it's astonishing. The truck averaged 44.1 mph according to the image, and it was able to do some 269.9 miles on its electric power.

Overall, before they filled up, they did some 595.2 miles in total, on both electric and gasoline power, and the image shows that there were still some 24 miles of range left in their tank before they would have run it dry. For Ford’s smallest truck, these are some mighty impressive figures.

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More Users Report Good Maverick Mileage Statistics

via Maverick Truck ClubMavforever was not the only user on the forum to post their impressive mileage statistics. Another user with the name Sylvester got close to the 595.2-mile figure, themselves making it 575.0 miles in total with 19 miles left before the truck would have become empty.

Sadly, there was no figure as to what the electrical power did in this truck, although this might not have been the hybrid model. Whichever way you look at it, both of these are very impressive performance figures.

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The Maverick Itself Is An Impressive Truck

via FordThese statistics just show that the Maverick, as a whole, is an incredibly impressive truck. The hybrid version has a 2.5-liter naturally aspirated Atkinson cycle four-cylinder engine, and its hybrid system helps give an extra 191 hp. This hybrid feature is clearly helping these users get this extra mileage out of their Mavericks.

A lot of users on their forum were simply amazed at the amount of mileage that was being gained from these trucks. One of them, username nunucello, simply replied to one of them with “outstanding!” That is certainly one word we can use to describe this. We will wait and see if anyone can make it to 600 miles before they need to fill up.

 

Fair and true but truck buyers are abnormally well informed and loyal vehicle buyers on average.

Factual basis for the last bit is if we leave the F150 out of this I've only ever replaced 3 ford engines vs 11 Hyundai units. If you include the Fail-150.......well let's just say 5.4 3V and if you know you know.

I find myself really wanting one of these fords, I need to stop looking at them before I do something stupid like buy one.

 

They're loyal to a brand, hence why Toyota struggles no matter how good their trucks are. I doubt any buyer who buys on the sole basis of manufacturer nationality like your average truck buyer can be considered an "informed buyer."

I'm pretty sure if this anecdote was applicable to the public, Ford wouldn't have spent the past decade sitting below Hyundai in pretty much every reliability and dependability assessment imaginable. And I don't think you should discount the F150 since it takes up a massive chunk of Ford sales.

One thing is certain- if people preferred Ford over Hyundai, Ford wouldn't have killed everything that isn't a crossover, truck, or Mustang.

 

No -- @mmarshall literally said the Maverick is "significantly" larger.
I read it exactly as everyone else is. Maybe this was meant to read "it looks significantly larger", but the words say what they say. The best way to not be misquoted is to say what you mean, and mean what you say.

I realize that this is an internet forum,and not a legal contract, and precision of words is not top of mind of most posters here. But just say "Oh, what I meant was it 'appears' significantly larger; sorry if I wasn't clear" -- then there's no debate.

 

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This argument is over...I have said what I intend to say, and will not continue to debate it with you. I'm moving on.