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Old Nov 24, 2019 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Usually I agree with many of your posts, but aren't we getting a little carried away here with assumptions and stereotypes?

First, trucks aren't built for personality shortcomings...they are built to carry passengers and loads, although many of today's trucks, particularly in top trim-levels, admittedly place as much or more emphasis on driver/passenger comfort as they do traditional hauling and towing.

Second, although they are not necessarily my cup of tea, I fail to see how having a BEV deprives one of manhood. Male or female, EVs offer a lot of advantages over ICEs...less pollution, less maintenance, quiet operation, and, yes, in Tesla's case....loads of torque. I grant you, though, that they are not necessarily the best vehicles for long trips because of range limitations.

Third, cargo vans have their place, but there are some things that, like it or not, are best carried/hauled on an open bed. If not sooner, you'll find that out, next spring, when it is time to fertilize the garden-beds LOL.
Nine times out of ten, a cargo van is far more useful vs a pick up truck, especially when it comes to pick up trucks with small cargo beds. And nobody is carrying fertilizers in their 70k shiny pickup trucks - people only get them because they are somehow considered redneck status symbol.

I really wish the government will stop classifying these pickups and SUVs as light trucks, and slap them with the same pedestrian safety regulations that apply to passenger cars, so that manufacturers can no longer make them so obnoxiously ridiculous.
Old Nov 24, 2019 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Back to the Cybertruck (and the video I posted), I'm surprised that, if Musk's Tweet is correct, there are already 146,000+ orders for it.
Are you really surprised? Tesla has built up a loyal following that makes Apple jealous.
Old Nov 24, 2019 | 06:55 PM
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This is interesting. An explanation of why there are no curves in the design.

https://electrek.co/2019/11/24/tesla...es-to-make-it/

You would think that Musk would have mentioned this before seeing how the design choice was so highly criticized.
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Originally Posted by Lexus2000
Are you really surprised? Tesla has built up a loyal following that makes Apple jealous.

For something that looks like that , yes, I'm a little surprised, although it's no secret that the Model 3 is taking over the sedan market in the U.S.

Discounting the BMW X6, the last crossover/truck introduced with anything near the Cybertrucks's lines (the Acura ZDX) was a complete sales flop.


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Originally Posted by mmarshall
For something that looks like that , yes, I'm a little surprised,
Give it time, I thought it was insane at first but after taking it in I think it's cool somehow and completely different.
although it's no secret that the Model 3 is taking over the sedan market in the U.S.
Could be mostly because there is high demand for a good EV.
Discounting the BMX X6, the last crossover/truck introduced with anything near the Cybertrucks's lines (the Acura ZDX) was a complete sales flop.
The look is incredibly boring at least to me.
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Lol so did I. What was your source? I used wiki.
i’ll see your wiki link and raise...

21.3 in 2018 source: wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._by_population
Old Nov 24, 2019 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Och
Nine times out of ten, a cargo van is far more useful vs a pick up truck, especially when it comes to pick up trucks with small cargo beds. And nobody is carrying fertilizers in their 70k shiny pickup trucks - people only get them because they are somehow considered redneck status symbol.

I really wish the government will stop classifying these pickups and SUVs as light trucks, and slap them with the same pedestrian safety regulations that apply to passenger cars, so that manufacturers can no longer make them so obnoxiously ridiculous.
"Useful" in what aspect? can a cargo van take 5 people comfortably on a road trip? Are you going to drive a cargo van as your daily? Can a cargo van tow 13,000#? No because they are FWD most of the time. I got my loaded Ram for 50k. Find me a car or crossover that has what my Ram has for that price. Good luck.

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Old Nov 24, 2019 | 07:22 PM
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Old Nov 24, 2019 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
"Useful" in what aspect? can a cargo van take 5 people comfortably on a road trip? Are you going to drive a cargo van as your daily? I got my loaded Ram for 50k. Find me a car or crossover that has what my Ram has for that price. Good luck.
A work vehicle isn't meant to take people comfortably on a road trip. A Camry or any cute ute can take five people comfortably on a road trip. A Mercedes Sprinter van can take 10 undocumented immigrants to a job site - uncomfortably, but who cares.
Old Nov 24, 2019 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Och
A work vehicle isn't meant to take people comfortably on a road trip.
4TehNguyen is correct. The Ram 1500 will do exactly that. Its comfort and road-manners are better then some "luxury" products.
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Originally Posted by Och
A work vehicle isn't meant to take people comfortably on a road trip. A Camry or any cute ute can take five people comfortably on a road trip. A Mercedes Sprinter van can take 10 undocumented immigrants to a job site - uncomfortably, but who cares.
Don't get in a crash.
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Originally Posted by Och
Nine times out of ten, a cargo van is far more useful vs a pick up truck, especially when it comes to pick up trucks with small cargo beds. And nobody is carrying fertilizers in their 70k shiny pickup trucks - people only get them because they are somehow considered redneck status symbol.
I live right by the lake. Care to guess how many "redneck" $70,000 Denalis towing $100,000+ boats in the summer just about every time I leave my house? Or how many I actually see carrying fertilizer, literally? (per your example)

I wish you would chill with the generalizations. I drive a truck, not a cargo van, half the time and I'm not a redneck. I tow my boat with it, help people move stuff with it.....you know, things that trucks were made to do.


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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
i’ll see your wiki link and raise...

21.3 in 2018 source: wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._by_population
lol WTF. I may need to take a break from the internet for a while haha.
Old Nov 24, 2019 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
4TehNguyen is correct. The Ram 1500 will do exactly that. Its comfort and road-manners are better then some "luxury" products.
То each is own I guess. Some people just like driving those obnoxious things, I guess more power to them. Tesla won't penetrate this crown, no way no how. I'm just not sure who this Tesla truck is intended for.

Old Nov 24, 2019 | 07:38 PM
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Here's what's probably the best video I've seen on the Cybertruck yet. It shows the initial rollout, the crowd-reaction, and some durability-tests of the body panels on stage, similiar to what Saturn used to do at auto shows, 20 years ago, with the plastic-bodied S-series.




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