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Old Aug 25, 2019 | 05:59 PM
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Yeah when the 2021 model year rolls around, the $59K starting price will be over $60K.

And in typical GM fashion, there will be huge discounts in the future too

Just that it won't really be a "bargain bargain" if you fully customize it like now like you can with a 911. TJ Hunt pre-ordered his C8 and he was quoted at $90K+ with all customizations. That is 911 money. Still a bargain for the performance only.
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A base 911 starts at $100k.
911S with basic options is about $135k.

C8 with Z51 and 2LT package is $75k, most ppl will be happy with base car at $60k
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Source: The C8 Corvette Z06 is Getting a Flat-Plane-Crank Twin-Turbo V-8!

https://www.motortrend.com/news/c8-c...2BDF2D981F7F6D


we've confirmed with a deep source on the Corvette team that the upcoming C8.R race car and, more crucially, the C8 Corvette Z06 will be powered by a flat-plane-crank twin-turbo dual-overhead-cam V-8.

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Old Aug 26, 2019 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3

Source: The C8 Corvette Z06 is Getting a Flat-Plane-Crank Twin-Turbo V-8!

https://www.motortrend.com/news/c8-c...2BDF2D981F7F6D
Holy Freakin' Moly. This is one of the reasons why I'm a GM guy and couldn't care less about Ford and Chrysler.
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Old Aug 26, 2019 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3

Source: The C8 Corvette Z06 is Getting a Flat-Plane-Crank Twin-Turbo V-8!

https://www.motortrend.com/news/c8-c...2BDF2D981F7F6D
Wow that's nice.
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Flat plane crank? I doubt it. More like a 5.5L version of the 4.2L Blackwing according to Automobilemag

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2...c8-mid-engine/
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Old Aug 26, 2019 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Flat plane crank? I doubt it. More like a 5.5L version of the 4.2L Blackwing according to Automobilemag

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2...c8-mid-engine/
what is a flat plane crank?
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Old Aug 26, 2019 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
what is a flat plane crank?
It's actually exactly what it sounds like: https://jalopnik.com/what-is-a-flat-...-ex-1659688239



Flat plane cranks result in an engine that is louder and vibrates more than a V8 with a traditional cross-plane crank. But is also lighter, smaller, and revs significantly faster, therefore making more hp. Hence the desirability for a high-end sports car.
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Flat plane crank? I doubt it. More like a 5.5L version of the 4.2L Blackwing according to Automobilemag

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2...c8-mid-engine/
Originally Posted by geko29
It's actually exactly what it sounds like: https://jalopnik.com/what-is-a-flat-...-ex-1659688239



Flat plane cranks result in an engine that is louder and vibrates more than a V8 with a traditional cross-plane crank. But is also lighter, smaller, and revs significantly faster, therefore making more hp. Hence the desirability for a high-end sports car.
Great. Thanks for the explanation
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
what is a flat plane crank?
Flat plane is a crankshaft that uses 180 degree angle between crank throws (think Shelby GT350 5.2L V8). It is much rarer than the more common crossplane crankshaft that uses a 90 degree angle between crank throws.

edit. geko29 beat me too it

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Old Aug 26, 2019 | 11:52 AM
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same as what the Mustang GT350 has over the regular GT. It has a more exotic sound than a regular V8 but not as smooth
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Flat plane crank? I doubt it. More like a 5.5L version of the 4.2L Blackwing according to Automobilemag

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2...c8-mid-engine/
Please read Motortrend article and listen to the video they have of the C8R race car.
Corvette is not playing around.

If they can only get Japanese to do their QC!
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Please read Motortrend article and listen to the video they have of the C8R race car.
Corvette is not playing around.

If they can only get Japanese to do their QC!
I'm skeptical. The C8.R is a racecar and not street legal. I will believe it when I see it. Till then utilizing the 4.2L Blackwing basics and increasing its displacement is the most likely scenario for the Z06.
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Originally Posted by geko29
It's actually exactly what it sounds like: https://jalopnik.com/what-is-a-flat-...-ex-1659688239



Flat plane cranks result in an engine that is louder and vibrates more than a V8 with a traditional cross-plane crank. But is also lighter, smaller, and revs significantly faster, therefore making more hp. Hence the desirability for a high-end sports car.
Thank you for this! I've always not quite understood it, either. I just know it revs high and sounds ridiculous (in a good way).
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Default Yes there is a twin turbo c8 corvette coming, but it’s not the z06

Reports Have Implied That There Will Be A New Z06 With 800 Horsepower, But That’s Only Half True


Sources have tipped to Automobile Magazine that General Motors is brewing up an immensely powerful mid-engined C8 Corvette Z06. Not that this wasn’t expected – the story of the C8 is just beginning, after all, and expectations are incredibly high for the new American supercar. However, further details indicated to us by our own sources paint a slightly different picture than that of the acclaimed magazine.

Automobile’s intel has gathered that the C8 Corvette Z06 will feature a twin-turbo V8 engine with a flat-plane crankshaft capable of producing as much as 800 horsepower. It would not only make it the most powerful Z06 ever, but it would be the most powerful production Corvette ever, period. Currently, that title is held by the hairy-chested C7 Corvette ZR1 and its 755 horsepower LT5 supercharged V8 engine. More than anything, the C7 ZR1 demonstrated why it was important for the Corvette to move its engine location, as evident from remarks coming from just about every auto critic that had the chance to pilot one. Speculation is that there may be a manual transmission in the pipeline, as well.

Here’s what is actually happening. The C8 Corvette is indeed getting a DOHC V8 engine with a set of turbochargers, and it will likely produce as much as 800 horsepower. Thing is, this variant won’t be the C8 Corvette Z06. What Automobile described in its report will actually be the C8 Corvette ZR1. We’re ruling the manual transmission out, based on remarks from GM executives. But what we won’t rule out is the possibility of a flat-plane crankshaft in this engine. If for nothing else other than the exotic soundtrack, and not the burbling small block V8 with a more conventional cross-plane crankshaft that’s been customary in American performance vehicles.

Before anybody gets confused, no, it’s not the 4.2L Blackwing TTV8 engine that is found in the Cadillac CT6-V. But it is part of the same engine family. Displacement is unknown for this mill, but it could be larger than five liters. The eight-speed DCT is expected to stay for this application, as well, as the Corvette team couldn’t find an off-the shelf unit to handle all of the torque, based on what was said during the 2020 C8 Stingray reveal. As for the rumor of an all-wheel-drive hybrid Corvette with as much as 1,000 horsepower that was originally published by Car & Driver in 2018? We still believe them to be true. However, being that the 800 hp variant will be the C8 ZR1, this could mean that the super hybrid could end up being called the Zora – a name that was trademarked as far back as 2014, and recently re-filed earlier this year with intention for automobile use. In other words, it could be GM’s take on the Porsche 918, for a sliver of the price.

Back to the C8 Corvette Z06. You can bet your bottom dollar that one is coming. However, the engine is going to be more true-to-formula than before. Die-hard Corvette enthusiasts weren’t too thrilled with the C7 Z06 featured a supercharger, so for the next go-round, the Z06 will once again be naturally aspirated. Output will likely be around 600 horsepower, well below the C8 ZR1, and it will not have a manual transmission. But it will have a screamer of an engine, and that alone is worth rejoicing over.

It’s safe to assume that a target for the C8 Corvette Z06 engine output would be to one-up the Ferrari 458 Speciale engine as the most powerful atmospheric V8 production engine the world has ever seen. That means out-matching a 597 horsepower from a 4.5L V8, which delivers 132.67 hp/L. Or else, why bother?

The engine powering the C8 Corvette Z06 will be part of the Cadillac Blackwing V8 family.
https://www.musclecarsandtrucks.com/...s-not-the-z06/
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