i cant find any real review... post a link if you can. Autoweek had something like preview that they called review, but they couldnt actually test the car (they took 0-60 with their phone) - if you cant take car to the test track, it is not a review.

I dont really remember last time brand new vehicle was at dealers but not reviewed.

 

I wonder if the car will get slammed in value in about a year or two.

the 2012 to 2013 are getting slammed right now. U can get a 2012 base for 20k. That's almost half the cost of MSRP just a year ago. Great deal for the buyer now, horrible for the original owner.

 

thats pretty good deal, although IMHO the looks got so old, i wouldnt be able to get over it. Thats probably why prices got so down, it looks like car from 10yrs ago.

New one looks a lot better, especially at front.

 

not sure what you mean by 'real review', perhaps you mean magazines which no one reads or actual buyers care about.

TONS of reviews on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...genesis+review

 

must be why they got lotus to help them with steering and handling.

 

designed in irvine,ca too.

 

And reviews have not praised it as some sport sedan. Lotus also helped Isuzu.

 

first maybe that wasn't hyundai's intention, and second, maybe we need to look at the term 'sport sedan' which i think is pretty much done except for cars like m5, amg e, s6, etc.

mercedes and bmw, the leaders, have obviously gone more toward comfort in recent years, which is a giant compliment to LEXUS. lexus went the other direction, adding a more sophisticated 'sports' suspension, but offering only 1 engine (hybrid is all but unavailable) and limited options has hindered its potential.

anyway, as the video points out, the genesis was benchmarked against the 5 series and e class, the leaders by miles. i would argue neither is a 'sport sedan' any longer. they both heavy, quiet, luxurious, midsize and very comfortable. their true sport sedan offerings are in a different league, and at a very different price point.

 

Maybe it's about time they learned. What is one person's "boring" car may be the love of someone else's life. Driving is often a whole lot more than 0-60 times, skidpad figures, and panic-stopping.....and beauty is not necessarily space-ship styling or a chassis that sits an inch off the ground.

 

p.s. every chinese manufacturer that ever tried to get into Europe, got Lotus to help them with handling... it really means nothing, usually handling sucked and i see even on youtube "reviews", few called Genesis "wobbly".

And as to review, of course, published media and not youtube reviewers that get wined and dined... reviews with test data that can be backed up. These are not reviews anyway, they are from test drive event from Hyundai where they get hour or two with the car, at best, and no access to any kind of test track or any road hyundai doesnt want you to take... usually they are not called reviews but "first drives".

It is really strange for major manufacturer not to provide cars for press or possibly to set late embargo date that is after the car goes on sale and can be purchased.

 

Hey I have no issue with that. But spwolf asked where are the reviews, I said a couple and don't expect a flurry since its not exactly a car editors and reviewers lineup and are waiting to review. Obviously boring works for many cars and companies.

FYI Hyundai just revealed only 15% of Genesis buyers are actually from Mercedes, Lexus, Audi etc. The vast majority are actually Camry, Accord, etc customers and of course Hyundai previous owners. All these years we had their fans portray the car as some 5/GS/E etc killer and only 15% of sales were from those buyers

 

The 1Gen Genesis sedan was quite well done except for the stiffer-than-necessary suspension, which was tweaked a little after the first year. It taught a lot of people (including me) that Hyundai was no fluke in the entry-level luxury class. I agree with you, though, that the Genesis sedan wasn't quite in the same class with the vehicles you mention, though, for that matter, neither were some later versions of those vehicles themselves.

 

The car clearly elevated Hyundai and was well received and the new generation seems to be a nice step up. It also never met sales goals and it has one of the worst resale values around. A used 1-2 year old Genesis or a new Civic/Corolla?

 

The thing is, today's "sport sedans" don't necessarily feel sporty, but they are far more capable than sport sedans of the past. You take todays 5 series - with the twin turbo v8 its faster than a bat out of hell, and it has a sophisticated suspension that is very comfortable, yet it will take a corner with no drama at all. You can throw that car in a high speed curve, and there's absolutely no body flex. With modern tech there is no need for sport sedans to be harsh anymore.

 

Well I had the opportunity this past Saturday to test drive the 2015 Genesis 5.0 V8 with all the options.

This car was very impressive in many ways! The car virtually drove itself including coming to a complete stop at a stop light with the radar cruise and drove away when the car in front of me pulled off! This car was extremely peppy with the 420 HP V8 and 4 passengers in it.

Our sales guy was very relaxed and allowed me to bring the car up to 140mph and it was nowhere near topped out for speed with a lot more in store. I was riding in normal mode for the suspension at the time and the car was a little "floaty", but the salesman said if i was in sport then the car would a lowered slightly and been more stable. I jammed the brakes on down to 80MPH and the car squirmed a little, but then again this car had 4 people in it!

As a result of the super low drag coefficient, this car was VERY quiet and i would venture to say as quiet as my LS! This car room and comfort-wise was very good in the front but the back although decent is really in a GS350 class for size and was somewhat tight.

The trunk was surprisingly small with a small opening and not much depth.

Overall I was very impressed! I must say though that this car did lack some of the refinement still, but something I think Hyundai can nail in the very near future.

As the salesman told us, in the next year or so, and depending on how the sales go, the "Hyundai Premium" vehicles will likely become a new name/it's own manufacturer. This car didn't say Hyundai on it anywhere other than the "H" on the trunk.