New Lexus GX SUV Due This Fall
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I have driven the LX570 at night and I found that all the bulbs are not HID, they do have nice intensity, illumination distance, and dispersion. Yeah it would be nice to have HIDs, but honestly their isnt that big of a difference between these halogens and other HIDs.
I was just reading about how the new E could "morph" its headlights as to not blind oncoming drivers. I would really like to see Lexus come up with something that would allow the GX to have HIDs but prevent blinding. For instance they could move a reflector or simply have AVS lower 1 or both projectors.
I was just reading about how the new E could "morph" its headlights as to not blind oncoming drivers. I would really like to see Lexus come up with something that would allow the GX to have HIDs but prevent blinding. For instance they could move a reflector or simply have AVS lower 1 or both projectors.
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I didn't even bother with that one 
Benz has a new tech in the E-class where the computers detect the oncoming light and respond with the appropriate light. Pretty trick
and it would have high beams on when no one is approaching.
Since the Lexus highbeams are a stock halogen, maybe the GX/LX could run those at a lower wattage (think DRL but more wattage) when the sensors see oncoming traffic and then turn on the HIDs when there is no traffic. Though I guess if you are driving behind someone, the HIDs would be on and blind that person.
Just an idea
I am with MP, I have to admit after I drove a GS with HIDs, I could not go back. It is a night and day difference.
Who knows, maybe the GX/LX will get LEDs instead and skip HIDs. Hids will be a thing of the past as most cars will have LED headlights in the future. They last nearly forever and they are so small they allow designers to design more adventerous headlights.
I have driven the LX570 at night and I found that all the bulbs are not HID, they do have nice intensity, illumination distance, and dispersion. Yeah it would be nice to have HIDs, but honestly their isnt that big of a difference between these halogens and other HIDs.
I was just reading about how the new E could "morph" its headlights as to not blind oncoming drivers. I would really like to see Lexus come up with something that would allow the GX to have HIDs but prevent blinding. For instance they could move a reflector or simply have AVS lower 1 or both projectors.
I was just reading about how the new E could "morph" its headlights as to not blind oncoming drivers. I would really like to see Lexus come up with something that would allow the GX to have HIDs but prevent blinding. For instance they could move a reflector or simply have AVS lower 1 or both projectors.
and it would have high beams on when no one is approaching. Since the Lexus highbeams are a stock halogen, maybe the GX/LX could run those at a lower wattage (think DRL but more wattage) when the sensors see oncoming traffic and then turn on the HIDs when there is no traffic. Though I guess if you are driving behind someone, the HIDs would be on and blind that person.
Just an idea
I am with MP, I have to admit after I drove a GS with HIDs, I could not go back. It is a night and day difference.
Who knows, maybe the GX/LX will get LEDs instead and skip HIDs. Hids will be a thing of the past as most cars will have LED headlights in the future. They last nearly forever and they are so small they allow designers to design more adventerous headlights.
It's nice to see that the GX will continue on , i'm sure there's a target audience still for that car aswell as the 4Runner that's upcoming aswell. Hopefully the styling won't be as disappointing as some of the newer Lexus.
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Whenever Lexus doesn't have something others have then Lexus needs to "get with the program". However whenever others don't have what Lexus has to offer then "it's not necessary".
Gotta love the hypocrisy floating around here...
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Say whatever you want about the Touareg being a "Volkswagen", it is a far more refined SUV than the GX. Oh, and it has those "blinding HIDs" that are creating such a firestorm (with Auto leveling and AFS no less) . The GX is brand engineering at it's worst - the platform doesn't benefit the Lexus logo. It's a Toyota in guise, nobody is fooled, and the Xenons not being there is attributable to this. At least the Cayenne/T-Reg/Q7 are indistinguishable form eachother, while still being built at the same factory. The GX is a cheap joke (IMO).
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Point being, if Lexus is going to write this off as the headlamp housing being too high, why wouldn't they have lowered the housing? My guess is they saw no economic reasoning to spend millions retooling the front end. That's exactly why the GX will never be a true Land Rover competitor - It's a Toyota, the exterior and interior are virtually identicle, and the trim quality is not up to Lexus standards.
Say whatever you want about the Touareg being a "Volkswagen", it is a far more refined SUV than the GX. Oh, and it has those "blinding HIDs" that are creating such a firestorm (with Auto leveling and AFS no less) . The GX is brand engineering at it's worst - the platform doesn't benefit the Lexus logo. It's a Toyota in guise, nobody is fooled, and the Xenons not being there is attributable to this. At least the Cayenne/T-Reg/Q7 are indistinguishable form eachother, while still being built at the same factory.
Say whatever you want about the Touareg being a "Volkswagen", it is a far more refined SUV than the GX. Oh, and it has those "blinding HIDs" that are creating such a firestorm (with Auto leveling and AFS no less) . The GX is brand engineering at it's worst - the platform doesn't benefit the Lexus logo. It's a Toyota in guise, nobody is fooled, and the Xenons not being there is attributable to this. At least the Cayenne/T-Reg/Q7 are indistinguishable form eachother, while still being built at the same factory.
The GX was Peterson 4x4 of the year 2 years in a row when it debuted. High praise. THe GX is great brand engineering, its profitable and it sold very well until recently. It sure as hell sells and always sold better than the same priced Tourag. The Tourag for all its "greatness" has not been that well received, it didn't dominate any category or comparos and is another expensive VW no one wants. Sorry people want to buy a "Toyota" than a VW.
Lol, you do realize VW paid for all the engineering and Porsche took all the profit and kudos with the Cayenne. You should know what.
Not to mention the Land Rover and Tourag have all the reliability of a used wet 5 month old diaper. Yeah, thats GREAT engineering. 
Beside the A/C vent location on the center stack I really don't see any similarities between the GX and 4Runner....
As for GX interior not up to Lexus standards? IT HAS BETTER MATERIAL THAN THE RX FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!
I have to give you credit for your VW/Audi knowledge but you are not even close to it when it comes to Lexus...
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The GX is better than the Land Rover in most instances. Its not just a Toyota and guess what, I'd take the Toyota Prado OVER the Land Rover. Like being a Toyota is a bad thing.
The GX was Peterson 4x4 of the year 2 years in a row when it debuted. High praise. THe GX is great brand engineering, its profitable and it sold very well until recently. It sure as hell sells and always sold better than the same priced Tourag. The Tourag for all its "greatness" has not been that well received, it didn't dominate any category or comparos and is another expensive VW no one wants. Sorry people want to buy a "Toyota" than a VW.
Lol, you do realize VW paid for all the engineering and Porsche took all the profit and kudos with the Cayenne. You should know what. Not to mention the Land Rover and Tourag have all the reliability of a used wet 5 month old diaper. Yeah, thats GREAT engineering.
The GX was Peterson 4x4 of the year 2 years in a row when it debuted. High praise. THe GX is great brand engineering, its profitable and it sold very well until recently. It sure as hell sells and always sold better than the same priced Tourag. The Tourag for all its "greatness" has not been that well received, it didn't dominate any category or comparos and is another expensive VW no one wants. Sorry people want to buy a "Toyota" than a VW.
Lol, you do realize VW paid for all the engineering and Porsche took all the profit and kudos with the Cayenne. You should know what.
Not to mention the Land Rover and Tourag have all the reliability of a used wet 5 month old diaper. Yeah, thats GREAT engineering. I'm sorry 1SICk, they are nearly identicle in every fashion. I'm not going to post pictures, but the GX is simply a Toyota Land Cuiser Prado guised up with wood and color matched exterior trim. They also throw in a better stereo. But everything else is the same, and I mean everything else - the interior, the entire body, even the friggen' exterior mirrors - are the same. It wouldn't be a problem IF the Prado actually had a hint of refinement and grace in its construction, but it's a brute SUV that in no way has the levels of refinement and luxury found in a Touareg or Land Rover, I'm sorry. Lexus didn't even change the rear lamp housing, so why anyone would think they would retool the front end for Xenons is fooling themselves.
The GX is a fail, it's not a true Lexus, it's more or less a trim level of the Prado. I don't even care to talk about "sales" nonsense - the product itself is inferior in everyway to a Range Rover and a Touareg. Reliability? That's what happens when you take a less expensive Toyota and pull the luxury trim level game with it. I can look past much of this when I include price and value, though, becuase for what it is, the GX isn't all that bad.
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# Eight: 2007 Land Rover LR3 HSE
# Seventh: 2007 Volkswagen Touareg V-6
# Sixth: 2007 Volvo XC90 Sport
# Fifth: 2007 Lexus GX470
# Fourth: 2007 Mercedes-Benz ML350
# Third: 2007 BMW X5 3.0si
# Second: 2007 Cadillac SRX AWD V-8
# First: 2007 Acura MDX Sport
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...omparison_test
Odd, the 2 cars FKL named, were both last somehow below the old GX awful 5th place finish
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...st+page-9.html
Here is the Tourag first and the GX 2nd in 2003. So clearly the GX is on par with the "superior" German engineering. lol
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...st+page-8.html
lads.
2003 Lexus GX470
* Introduction
* Eighth: 2003 GMC Envoy SLT
* Seventh: 2003 Land Rover Discovery SE
* Fifth (tie): 2003 Lincoln Aviator
* Fifth (tie): 2003 Volvo XC90 T6
* Fourth: 2003 BMW X5 3.0i
* Third: 2003 Acura MDX
* Second: 2003 Lexus GX470
* First: 2003 Volkswagen Touareg
Land Rover sucked all sorts of goat *** again.
The Land Rover is a POS, not sure why you are mentioning it. The Touareg is a very luxurious vehicle, with the wrong badge. The GX is based on the PRADO and the Prado is like a TOureg, a luxury SUV with the wrong badge.
Hey I like HIDs, I do wish Lexus could/would put them in.
THe GX is not a fail to consumers or to Lexus. It sold well, it produce a profit. I initially HATED it when it debuted. "Another SUV" is what I thought. However it met sales goals and bridged the gap between the RX and expensive LX. Now everyone has 3 or more SUVs seemingly.
THe GX is nowhere inferior to the Toureg or Land Rover because the PRADO is not inferior to the Tourareg (what a dumbass name, I can't even spell it) or Land Rover.
GX, PRado, TOureg, IMO all very good luxurious 4x4 SUVs.
The only "failure" is the TOureg, which sold like crap after the first year.
http://www.businessweek.com/autos/co...222_164455.htm
Volkswagen's Touareg SUV is as sophisticated, sprightly, and dead sexy as its name is awkward to spell and annoying to say. But at a time when Volkswagen of America is desperately trying to reaffirm its long-lost image as a quirky and clever manufacturer of cars for the rest of us, one has to wonder what this divine, all-terrain hunk of luxury is doing sporting, of all things, a V-Dub grill.
Apparently, potential Touareg buyers started asking themselves that very same question last year. Sales of the VW SUV tanked 43.7% in 2006, down to a niche-like 10,163 vehicles, according to Automotive News. High gas prices and competition for luxury, midsize SUVs that boiled over last year didn't help those sales figures much either.
2008 SALES
toURAG -6755
GX -16,424
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...les-sales.html
# Seventh: 2007 Volkswagen Touareg V-6
# Sixth: 2007 Volvo XC90 Sport
# Fifth: 2007 Lexus GX470
# Fourth: 2007 Mercedes-Benz ML350
# Third: 2007 BMW X5 3.0si
# Second: 2007 Cadillac SRX AWD V-8
# First: 2007 Acura MDX Sport
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...omparison_test
Odd, the 2 cars FKL named, were both last
somehow below the old GX awful 5th place finish http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...st+page-9.html
Here is the Tourag first and the GX 2nd in 2003. So clearly the GX is on par with the "superior" German engineering. lol
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...st+page-8.html
lads.
2003 Lexus GX470
* Introduction
* Eighth: 2003 GMC Envoy SLT
* Seventh: 2003 Land Rover Discovery SE
* Fifth (tie): 2003 Lincoln Aviator
* Fifth (tie): 2003 Volvo XC90 T6
* Fourth: 2003 BMW X5 3.0i
* Third: 2003 Acura MDX
* Second: 2003 Lexus GX470
* First: 2003 Volkswagen Touareg
Land Rover sucked all sorts of goat *** again.
I'm sorry 1SICk, they are nearly identicle in every fashion. I'm not going to post pictures, but the GX is simply a Toyota Land Cuiser Prado guised up with wood and color matched exterior trim. They also throw in a better stereo. But everything else is the same, and I mean everything else - the interior, the entire body, even the friggen' exterior mirrors - are the same. It wouldn't be a problem IF the Prado actually had a hint of refinement and grace in its construction, but it's a brute SUV that in no way has the levels of refinement and luxury found in a Touareg or Land Rover, I'm sorry. Lexus didn't even change the rear lamp housing, so why anyone would think they would retool the front end for Xenons is fooling themselves.
The GX is a fail, it's not a true Lexus, it's more or less a trim level of the Prado. I don't even care to talk about "sales" nonsense - the product itself is inferior in everyway to a Range Rover and a Touareg. Reliability? That's what happens when you take a less expensive Toyota and pull the luxury trim level game with it. The GX is playing the same game as the Acura TSX.
The GX is a fail, it's not a true Lexus, it's more or less a trim level of the Prado. I don't even care to talk about "sales" nonsense - the product itself is inferior in everyway to a Range Rover and a Touareg. Reliability? That's what happens when you take a less expensive Toyota and pull the luxury trim level game with it. The GX is playing the same game as the Acura TSX.
Hey I like HIDs, I do wish Lexus could/would put them in.
THe GX is not a fail to consumers or to Lexus. It sold well, it produce a profit. I initially HATED it when it debuted. "Another SUV" is what I thought. However it met sales goals and bridged the gap between the RX and expensive LX. Now everyone has 3 or more SUVs seemingly.
THe GX is nowhere inferior to the Toureg or Land Rover because the PRADO is not inferior to the Tourareg (what a dumbass name, I can't even spell it) or Land Rover.
GX, PRado, TOureg, IMO all very good luxurious 4x4 SUVs.
The only "failure" is the TOureg, which sold like crap after the first year.
http://www.businessweek.com/autos/co...222_164455.htm
Volkswagen's Touareg SUV is as sophisticated, sprightly, and dead sexy as its name is awkward to spell and annoying to say. But at a time when Volkswagen of America is desperately trying to reaffirm its long-lost image as a quirky and clever manufacturer of cars for the rest of us, one has to wonder what this divine, all-terrain hunk of luxury is doing sporting, of all things, a V-Dub grill.
Apparently, potential Touareg buyers started asking themselves that very same question last year. Sales of the VW SUV tanked 43.7% in 2006, down to a niche-like 10,163 vehicles, according to Automotive News. High gas prices and competition for luxury, midsize SUVs that boiled over last year didn't help those sales figures much either.
2008 SALES
toURAG -6755
GX -16,424
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...les-sales.html
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