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Old May 19, 2009 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SLegacy99
It's about time...but good luck selling it.
That's the way I see it, but I suspect they are realistic about sales forecasts.
Old May 19, 2009 | 09:48 AM
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While a body on frame GX might be apples to oranges against the other SUV's listed, it's still going to get cross shopped against them because of exactly that, the pricing, luxury badge, 3 rows of seating etc.
Maybe the Q7 but the others mentioned are sporty SUVs. its like saying the IS 350 and 3 series competes with the ES 350 and Acura Tl. Same price point, different priorities.

If people READ the entire article, Lexus is saying there is a market for those that still want a true 4x4 no matter if they use it or they "know" they "can" use it. The GX will stay a rugged 4x4 with luxury. Lexus themselves calls them LUV "Luxury Utility Vehicles" on their website.

Expect a smaller looking LX. I hope the new GX gets quad lamps like the GS.
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I suppose this time around the GX will finally get xenon headlights... just like we saw happen with the LX.

I remember when the 2003 GX first came out with no xenon lights even optional the fanboys were coming out of the woodwork to defend Lexus saying that Lexus was infinite in its wisdom because it was irresponsible to have xenon lights on a vehicle that sat up so high because it would blind other drivers.

It's always funny to see the contortions brand apologists will go through. I want to know if now these same people believe Lexus is being irresponsible? No... that's not possible.
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I suppose this time around the GX will finally get xenon headlights... just like we saw happen with the LX.

I remember when the 2003 GX first came out with no xenon lights even optional the fanboys were coming out of the woodwork to defend Lexus saying that Lexus was infinite in its wisdom because it was irresponsible to have xenon lights on a vehicle that sat up so high because it would blind other drivers.

It's always funny to see the contortions brand apologists will go through. I want to know if now these same people believe Lexus is being irresponsible? No... that's not possible.
Uhhhhh, I believe the LX 570 does not have HIDs standard or as an option.

Lexus not slapping HIDs in the GX was a reasonable arguement made by people. I hate those damn HIDs in SUVs blinding the crap out of me, especially behind me.

Its funnier to see people try to attack people who defend their brand on their own forum
Old May 19, 2009 | 10:11 AM
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it be interesting if they have a hybrid option.
Old May 19, 2009 | 10:35 AM
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So should I get a Cayenne GTS or get a GX470 and an IS-F?????
Old May 19, 2009 | 10:41 AM
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The GX is gonna be around for a long time...I'm sure the GX will be the last SUV to receive L-Finesse. The SC is next...

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Old May 19, 2009 | 10:42 AM
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I will never consider the Cayenne even if I need a SUV (I don't), because I won't support Porsche building SUV's ... & the Cayenne is ugly anyway ...
Old May 19, 2009 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Gojirra99
I will never consider the Cayenne even if I need a SUV (I don't), because I won't support Porsche building SUV's ... & the Cayenne is ugly anyway ...
As a Porsche enthusiast, I agree. I can't knock the business case for the Cayenne especially in the lucrative American market.
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Originally Posted by Gojirra99
I will never consider the Cayenne even if I need a SUV (I don't), because I won't support Porsche building SUV's ... & the Cayenne is ugly anyway ...
Originally Posted by IS-SV
As a Porsche enthusiast, I agree. I can't knock the business case for the Cayenne especially in the lucrative American market.
+2... and THANK YOU!!! C4S or bust!!!!
Old May 19, 2009 | 11:47 AM
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To the Porshe "enthusiasts" knocking the Cayenne..."Drive them"..... Hey, this should be my new sig
Old May 19, 2009 | 11:54 AM
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Uhhhhh, I believe the LX 570 does not have HIDs standard or as an option.

Lexus not slapping HIDs in the GX was a reasonable arguement made by people. I hate those damn HIDs in SUVs blinding the crap out of me, especially behind me.

Its funnier to see people try to attack people who defend their brand on their own forum
Well if that's true then you pwned me for sure. I'll be even more 'pwned' if the new GX comes out and still doesn't have xenon lights.

And yet I'm completely shocked that Lexus continues to not use xenon headlamps when these days projector bulbs and auto-aiming systems are so dynamically adjustable. I mean some cars out there will even watch for oncoming traffic and automatically lower their lights to keep them from shining on the traffic coming up. This becomes even easier to do with LED lighting which is most definitely possible on a car the price of the LX570 if it's possible on the Prius. Not to mention I can't think of any other SUVs on the road the size/price of the GX that don't offer xenon lights, and I've never had problems with them blinding me. The only cars that blind me are the ones where people add aftermarket HID lighting to housings that weren't designed to aim the light properly.

Regarding the whole 'their brand' thing... I've never understood how people can latch onto a brand and consider it "theirs". I guess it's like sports teams or something... a person decides to identify with one team and from then on defend it tooth and nail. Yes it's a Lexus forum but I don't see that as any indication that it's a place of worship for Lexus vehicles... moreso that it's a place to talk about Lexus vehicles, for better or for worse.
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Originally Posted by Gojirra99
I will never consider the Cayenne even if I need a SUV (I don't), because I won't support Porsche building SUV's ... & the Cayenne is ugly anyway ...
same here, even if it's the cayenne gts i am still not a fan

i hope they change the rear tailgate, i don't like it open sideway at all.....

and it's interesting to see what the next generation of the navigation would be, or if they mean the same as that in the new RX
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Well if that's true then you pwned me for sure. I'll be even more 'pwned' if the new GX comes out and still doesn't have xenon lights.

And yet I'm completely shocked that Lexus continues to not use xenon headlamps when these days projector bulbs and auto-aiming systems are so dynamically adjustable. I mean some cars out there will even watch for oncoming traffic and automatically lower their lights to keep them from shining on the traffic coming up. This becomes even easier to do with LED lighting which is most definitely possible on a car the price of the LX570 if it's possible on the Prius. Not to mention I can't think of any other SUVs on the road the size/price of the GX that don't offer xenon lights, and I've never had problems with them blinding me. The only cars that blind me are the ones where people add aftermarket HID lighting to housings that weren't designed to aim the light properly.

Regarding the whole 'their brand' thing... I've never understood how people can latch onto a brand and consider it "theirs". I guess it's like sports teams or something... a person decides to identify with one team and from then on defend it tooth and nail. Yes it's a Lexus forum but I don't see that as any indication that it's a place of worship for Lexus vehicles... moreso that it's a place to talk about Lexus vehicles, for better or for worse.
The LX 570 does seem quite "blah" without HIDs. With the new RX, the projectors are where the high beam usually is, next to the grill. I hate how it looks but I guess its better for the driver and other drivers. I much prefer the LEDs on the RX.

I totally agree with you about aftermarket HIDs, especially those with 8k or 12k in the usual Honda or in GA, the big huge lifted 4x4 blinding everything.

Every forum has their brand junkies. People identify with their city, their sports team, their horoscope etc etc. Cars are no different. We do have our lexus junkies but its not that bad compared to most other forums, where if you even mention the brand is bad, people got nuts. Just look at the civil threads MP started about interior quality or the one where I ask "where hte coupes"? Lexus owners mostly agreed there could be improvements.

Clearly Clublexus and CarChat is not a forum where Lexus is worshipped and we think everything else sucks. You won't find a more civil and open minded forum anywhere. Trust me, I've been on most of them. Will we have our resident fanboys? Yup. However, its better than a forum of fanboys (I won't mention which websites)
Old May 19, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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Come on you guys, Lexus know what you guys want better than you, you do not need HID in the GX and the LX This is another case of Lexus trying to pay big brother in safety. They try to set an example, but no one else is following. The thing that seem stupid to me is that the RX has HIDs while the LX and the GX does not, and they are suppose to be higher end models. If Lexus really case about not blinding other drivers, they could have made the head lights lower, at the same level as the RX, in their newly design LX and GX.



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