New Lexus GX SUV Due This Fall
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I dunno about that... I can see LEDs becoming like computer memory or flat panel TVs... they can be produced anywhere in the world and while demand will increase greatly in the coming years, it's nothing for supply to be ramped up either and competition will do what it did to RAM and display panel manufacturers where it's actually impossible for them to make a profit, they can only keep producing products to lessen their losses.
Leds will be the norm in the next 20 years in car headlights. 
By the way, so the ****ing what if the GX is a rebadged Prado? Toyota needs to sell some hard-core luxury SUVs in the markets where there is no Lexus just like how they usually did before selling Lexus-brand models in Japan.
That actually says the Toyota LC Prado is just as good as a Lexus which really says something about the brand.
Again, do you have proof? How do you know that the LC Prado isn't design to the Lexus spec so Toyota can sell it in all the markets? Do you have official documents from VW and Toyota clearly state that Prado/GX wasn't designed from the start as a world class luxury SUV and the Touareg is? By the way, what does a SUV suppose to do best? Off-roding right? How do you think you beloved Toureg is going to stack up against the Prado/GX in that road condition? How come the Toyota LC and LC Prado is popular among the Middle Eastern countries where they have the worst road condition while Touareg is mainly used a highway cruiser?
PLEASE, stop it. You **** out of you know what is getting really tiresome...
That actually says the Toyota LC Prado is just as good as a Lexus which really says something about the brand.
PLEASE, stop it. You **** out of you know what is getting really tiresome...
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The Prado looks good as a Toyota. I really hope that the new GX looks dramatically different than the Prado though.
Toyota did a good job differentiating the current-gen LX and Land Cruiser from each other. I hope they do at least as good of a job with the new GX.
Toyota did a good job differentiating the current-gen LX and Land Cruiser from each other. I hope they do at least as good of a job with the new GX.
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What are you even talking about. It's funny that when you disagree, you immediately accused of not haven ever sat in a car, let alone driven one. Guess what, I have driven a GX, at length. Guess what? My sister owns one of the damn SUVs. You have no basis for which to criticize my "seat time" in any given car. Given that the GX is a rebadged Prado, I guess then "yes", I have driven that car. Not that it matters, the dicussion is revolving around the GX, but thanks for the misleading insinuations.
Maybe you should read closer before touting "ownage". The poster of those pictures didn't even post the right car. He posted some American 4 Runner photos up and called them the Prado. Wrong. And no, it's not "silly" to compare the Prado/GX to those SUVs. I still stand by everything I've said here. The VW has a more sophisticated design, there are more finer details, there's more features, and most of all, it looks better. The GX is luxurious in a same way a top drawer Camry XLE used to be luxurious. The basic design is lacking in thought, but the materials are top drawer.
Maybe you should read closer before touting "ownage". The poster of those pictures didn't even post the right car. He posted some American 4 Runner photos up and called them the Prado. Wrong. And no, it's not "silly" to compare the Prado/GX to those SUVs. I still stand by everything I've said here. The VW has a more sophisticated design, there are more finer details, there's more features, and most of all, it looks better. The GX is luxurious in a same way a top drawer Camry XLE used to be luxurious. The basic design is lacking in thought, but the materials are top drawer.
You however, have no point whatsoever, and you are completely trolling.
As I mentioned before, these pictures are of the non-USDM LAND CRUISER PRADO. This generation of Prado and GX look very different from the front.
Land Cruiser Prado:
GX:
Considering this, I would expect that the next GX and LCP will look different as well. Let's hold our opinions until the "real deal" comes out.
Land Cruiser Prado:
GX:
Considering this, I would expect that the next GX and LCP will look different as well. Let's hold our opinions until the "real deal" comes out.
I was a GX owner and loved everything about it.
It's so damn quiet.
Can't wait to see the new GX.
For one thing, that prado **** is freakin huge
From this picture, it still looks like the barn door
It worked perfectly for me, easy to close when you have your hands full.
It only sucks when it doesn't block the rain like a lift gate.
The only thing better would be a power lift gate like the RX.
don't forget LR3 has the barn door too
It's so damn quiet.
Can't wait to see the new GX.
For one thing, that prado **** is freakin huge
From this picture, it still looks like the barn door
It worked perfectly for me, easy to close when you have your hands full.
It only sucks when it doesn't block the rain like a lift gate.
The only thing better would be a power lift gate like the RX.
don't forget LR3 has the barn door too
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Nothing wrong with that. Toyota is a great company. It makes good reliable vehicles. There's lots of choices in their model line up with a few exceptions. Toyota is the largest and number one automobile manufacturer in the whole entire world...
I'm a bit irked by my words continually getting twisted. I have never once compared the GX to a 4 Runner. The 4 Runner is actually styled differently from the Prado, the GX isn't at all. That is the point - It's not a Lexus, it's a totally rebadged Prado with better materials with the Lexus badge swapped on.
That's exactly why the GX will never be a true Land Rover competitor
It's a Toyota, the exterior and interior are virtually identicle, and the trim quality is not up to Lexus standards.
Say whatever you want about the Touareg being a "Volkswagen", it is a far more refined SUV than the GX.
The GX is brand engineering at it's worst - the platform doesn't benefit the Lexus logo.
It's a Toyota in guise, nobody is fooled, and the Xenons not being there is attributable to this.
At least the Cayenne/T-Reg/Q7 are indistinguishable form eachother, while still being built at the same factory.
The GX is a cheap joke (IMO).
It's a Toyota, the exterior and interior are virtually identicle, and the trim quality is not up to Lexus standards.
Say whatever you want about the Touareg being a "Volkswagen", it is a far more refined SUV than the GX.
The GX is brand engineering at it's worst - the platform doesn't benefit the Lexus logo.
It's a Toyota in guise, nobody is fooled, and the Xenons not being there is attributable to this.
At least the Cayenne/T-Reg/Q7 are indistinguishable form eachother, while still being built at the same factory.
The GX is a cheap joke (IMO).
? In other parts of the world the LC Prado is seen as the authority in off road capability and refinement. What is wrong with the GX being based on such architecture if it is proven, capable, and truly world-class? NOTHING. Just like there is nothing wrong with the Cayenne being based on the "lowly"Touareg- it's a good, solid, capable platform even if it wears the VW badge.IMO the Cayenne, Touareg, and Q7 are no more or less distinguished than the LCP, GX, and/or 4Runner. Many of them share similar looking body panels despite each being slightly different. The interiors are one place where VWAG did a great job of differentiating the three of them, while Lexus chose not to retool the entire GX inside. Is this a problem? NO because the hardware was fine, proven, attractive, and it worked. As you note, Lexus added their touches to the interior to dress it up and now we have the GX 470. Voila. As far as your opinions concerning the grade of materials inside the cabin, we will simply have to agree to disagree.
You seem entirely too focused on badges, FKL. I don't know about you but I just want to buy a well made, capable, reliable, competitive, vehicle at it's pricepoint and I do not care what badge it wears so long as it seems worthy of it's price tag in relation to my personal buying/evaluative criteria. If the only thing you can hold against the GX is that it started life as a Toyota Prado...then quite honestly...that should be taken as a compliment.
We can debate the merits of how grand the Prado itself is, but from the countless responses I've typed in this thread, I've made my opinion on the matter very clear - The Prado/GX doesn't have dynamic or aesthetic highnotes that a Touareg has, no matter how you cut it.
It feels like a high end Toyota, - It wasn't designed from the start as a world class luxury SUV. The Touareg was.
It benchmarked the X5 in dynamic abilities and the Range Rover for offroad technology and credentials.
The GX, in comparison, is far less sophisticated in design and function, and really - it's just underwhelming to me. I've driven it lots of times, TO ME, it feels underpowered, in the same vein a V6 FSI Touareg does. IIRC, though, the power was upgraded in the third or forth model year - this thing only had 235hp I believe...anyways, the interior switches are all Toyota, and honestly, I was craving more design expression for something so costly. There's nothing like a top drawer Touareg V8 with the Nappa leather IMO. LEDs in the cup holders, door handles, ceiling, Fine wood grafting the center cupholders...All the users debasing me as some off base moron really should go drive that car for a change. And to add to that, yes, it does somehow manage to have auto leveling and adaptive Bi-Xenon HIDs.
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I really hope this a trend that will stop. I hope future Toyota and Lexus models move away from this. Lexus models generally don't have a big issue with these sort of headlights, but it's worrying how many Toyota models are getting these headlights.
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