Starting next week I will be on a big project for my company, and this will probably be the last time I am able to post a thread for awhile. This post is two part, part I is just a summary of why I've gone BEV, and why it's the best choice for me. I will not make this too long if I can, as most people have already read my various threads and I don't want to be too repetitive. Part II will be directed towards the moderators of this forum.

Part I

Many people automatically assume (falsely) most EV buyers move into this space to save the environment, save money, end their dependence on oil, or to virtue signal. That may be true for some, but speaking strictly for myself, I didn't make this move for any of those reasons. At 58 years young (I absolutely refuse to be old), most of my adult life was spent owning and driving various cars. As the former Director of IT for the parent company of my current employer, I traveled several times a year to your San Antonio Texas office and took the liberty of renting cars like Mustang GT's, Chargers (RT mostly), Cadillac CTS (3.6L). I've driven and enjoyed cars like LC500, BMW M3 and M4 Comp, M440i, LS460, and once rented (and almost crashed) a Lambo Huracan in 2017 while in Dubai. I've personally owned cars like the VW GTI, several Camry's, a 10th Gen Civic Si, and my last ICE car was an IS350 Sport that I modded (suspension and steering). So most of my adult life was spent driving and owning ICE. And I still have a deep connection to those roots, I still have respect for the engineering that went into vehicles, and I've never lost that respect. Then in 2022 I test drove a Polestar 2, and my whole perspective changed. Dual motors, 476 HP, 546 ft-lbs torque, 0 to 60 in 3.7 seconds (on every launch, any surface), and smooth as glass drive train. I fell in love instantly.

So let me just lay out in simple terms why I went EV and left the ICE camp:

Instant, on demand torque that never disappoints
HP delivery without compromise
Smooth NVH free drive train
More efficient than a Prius (136 MPGe for my Model 3 and 126 MPGe for my Model Y)
Virtually maint free...if you don't count the case of windshield wiper fluid I buy every 6 months )
Ability to charge at home, and a vast statewide supercharging network that allows me to travel

I didn't buy my EV's to save money. I didn't buy them to virtue signal. I didn't buy them because I hate ICE...I don't. I moved to BEV's because IMO they are an evolution in vehicle tech, they drive better, they are smoother and quieter, less complicated, and more efficient at the same time. Kind of like being able to eat dessert and not worry about getting fat and diabetes. Never have to go to gas stations, never have to go for oil changes or visit my mechanic, who is missing me btw. That's it. Very simple. I get a car that's fast, smooth, quiet and super efficient.

Now I understand that there are many of you who don't want or care for EV's. I respect that, and to you I want to say I'm not pushing my choices on you or anyone. I'm just sharing my reasons and experiences of owning and leasing EV's over the last almost 6 years. I absolutely love them, I love the way they drive, I love that in a straight line 90 percent of cars can't touch me, and I love that I can fuel them at home directly from the sun or power stored from the sun in batteries. There are no political or ideological reasons I chose EV's over ICE. It's purely performance and technology of EV's.

Part II

To the moderators. I totally respect you guys and what you are doing. And I acknowledge that you guys are volunteers, and it's not easy moderating a bunch of grown children . I'm not writing this to tell you guys what to do, but I feel strongly that the evidence here is showing that breaking the EV sub forum and integrating it with the General Car Chat is not working. I won't get into it too much here, just to say that although both are classified as cars, there has not been enough bridges that have been gapped yet. Although I believe that a large number of ICE owners on here are open to at least learning more about EV's, the clashes that are taking place are the reason we asked Dave for the EV sub forum. I won't say anymore on this.

Lastly...please guys, come up with some rules so things are not so confusing. If you guys need help writing guidelines, I'm willing to pitch in. When Dave setup the EV sub forum, I helped him write the rules, and with help from Lex2k we were able to come up with acceptable do's and don'ts. Even if the rules are more relaxed, there should be minimum guidelines.

Anyway, that's it. Peace to all 👍

Agree with your list, and I'd add the significant delta between the best of EV tech and the best of the tech in the ICE world. Which to be clear is basically Tesla vs everyone else including most other EV makers, but that is changing as companies like BMW - who have invested wisely and are about to release genuinely top-drawer EVs - prioritize tech as a competitive advantage.

To your Part II, well you know I already agree with that.

Good luck with your project!

I think the BEV crowd like the OP needs to respect the fact that the ICE crowd has tested EVs as well (i have driven several Model 3s, Model S, iX, i4 and i5, Mach E etc) and our preference for the driving experience is still ICE.

I’m happy you love BEVs and hope you feel the same when someone tells you they prefer ICE. What I don’t like is the BEV folks trying to convert ppl to their “side”.

Exactly.

I've never tried to convert anyone, and I respect everyone's choices. This is all my opinion. Which is why we asked Dave for our own EV sub forum in the first place

This is a narrative that really doesn't exist outside of your own minds. Where has anyone tried to "convert" you or anyone else? How exactly would they do that? And why would they bother? They're not driving your car, nor you theirs. By all means, post examples if you have them. Happy to stand corrected if you see something I haven't. I just don't see members trying to do this.

Hopefully Admins take note of this. Not trying to put anyone on the spot, and I understand the reasons for breaking the sub forum to try and bridge the gap, but when people actually believe that posting anything positive about BEV's is some plot to "convert" them (not sure how they came to this conclusion), it shows there is a big divide that just can't be gaped. IMHO of course

Exactly what crossed my mind too.....

Just like you I honestly don't give a crap what anyone else drives.

No idea why anyone would think we're trying to convince anyone else what to drive....🤔

Agree with all the points you've made 👍

Just don't understand what the "gaped" word is..

I highly recommend you be quite careful googling that...... 😉

I wonder if Amirza intended to say "gapped".

Sorry, stupid spellcheck changed it.

Gapped: "Having to break, Opening, or a space between objects"

^^ This ^^ I blame spell check

I was just giving you a hard time 😊

Doubly agree. And dont the OP have enough threads about EVs that he started and many millions of miles long already? Like I've said it many times, myself and many other people will probably agree, people will convert when they are ready and/or the infrastructure is there. Add convenience and accessibility. Many people dont mind plugging it in at home or whatnot, but clearly there are enough that dont want to do that or can't do that when they get home.

I think this thread needs to be closed.

Well whenever there's a discussion about gas prices, guess what kind of car owners jump in with a big smirk on their face telling everyone how much it cost to charge and not having to go to a gas station and no maintenance and such? Like duh, why would you need an oil change with no engine?