"CL is a forum with mostly ICE owners and I think it’s been pretty open and fair with many of the folks that converted to EVs. But its tiring to hear how great the EVs are like we as ICE owners have not experienced a Tesla lol Hell I can save thousands driving BMW iX instead of X5. We know the benefits and shortcomings, please save your breath"
At least in the EV forum we could say how great EV's were without hearing comments like this. The fighting was mostly among ourselves. You remember, like the beef between Steve and myself...which we resolved btw
So yes... You want a separate EV forum again. Then all of this will go away, Right?
No, this is all good. It's exactly what I suspected. Actually it was clear as day, I just wanted it to be articulated clearly
Bro all you do is talk about EVs - we get it, it’s stupendous!
We are all amazed by how great they are and can only dream to own one some day while we ride around in our fossil fuel barbaric cars!
So yes... You want a separate EV forum again. Then all of this will go away, Right?
No, there will always be fighting and arguing, that's where moderating comes in, we are all human. But in most cases people who comment in an EV forum either want to contribute or learn something with the exception of maybe some trolling, but again, that's where mods come in
You want a sub-forum?
You want us to block ICE people from visiting that sub forum?
Absolutely not. When I want to discuss ICE cars, I go into Car Chat, you can find posts of ICE cars I've driven and reviewed. When I want to post about EV's, I post in the EV sub forum. If someone from the ICE forum wants to post, ask questions or just learn something, they go into the EV forum. If someone goes into EITHER Car Chat or the EV Forum to troll, that's where clear rules take over
Bro all you do is talk about EVs - we get it, it’s stupendous!
We are all amazed by how great they are and can only dream to own one some day while we ride around in our fossil fuel barbaric cars!
Why do you get to decide what people talk about? If you don't like a topic kindly ***swear words directed at another member still prohibited on CL, don't do it again***and let people discuss what they are passionate about.
Ah, so I'm the bad guy 👍LOL I'm pretty much done with CL
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
You just want to leave us again!!! 😂
This reminds me... a while back I read a post in similar manner from my cousin on his SM's wall... "This will be my last post." Lol.
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
@1SICKLEX and @bitkahuna I hope you will go thru this thread and carefully analyze that many in the ICE community, fairy or unfairly see us as unwanted illegal immigrants in "their" forum. Even your mods are showing bias, telling me I "asked for it" by starting this thread. How can I even post here anymore knowing that they think I'm the problem for starting a thread? Was I rude to anyone, did I curse anyone out or insult anyone?
So with all respect, until proper etiquette and rules are established, proper moderation is conducted, I cannot post here anymore until order is established. Right now posting here I feel like an unwanted guest
Come on now... You posted something like this thread and seriously expected people not to talk about EV vs. ICE? "You asked for it" means I answered your question why you got this kind of responses. Wow "unwanted illegal immigrants". Really? Is this considered a baiting response? Lol. That's how you took it? I'm sure I've said a few things here and there that you and some EV folks here don't like but the truth is I always say things from my own experience, not like I read here/there or someone told me. I was on EV forums too. So I know the things I feel negative about Tesla are not uncommon. But when I brought them up, some of you either just don't want to acknowledge it or feel triggered for some reasons.
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Bro, are you not reading the comments?
"CL is a forum with mostly ICE owners and I think it’s been pretty open and fair with many of the folks that converted to EVs. But its tiring to hear how great the EVs are like we as ICE owners have not experienced a Tesla lol Hell I can save thousands driving BMW iX instead of X5. We know the benefits and shortcomings, please save your breath"
At least in the EV forum we could say how great EV's were without hearing comments like this. The fighting was mostly among ourselves. You remember, like the beef between Steve and myself...which we resolved btw
Would an EV sub forum prevent such "incident"? I don't have any saying/voting, but combining these is just fine IMO.
Bro all you do is talk about EVs - we get it, it’s stupendous!
We are all amazed by how great they are and can only dream to own one some day while we ride around in our fossil fuel barbaric cars!
Because maybe I own EV's and drive them daily? Maybe I should discuss BMW's? LOL
This is your problem, there are no 'EV folks" we are car owners. People attack me constantly call me a cult member a shill blah blah I own more Toyota/Lexus than anyone here at least from what I've seen. And I am certain I have owned more Toyota's than anyone here by far.
Because maybe I own EV's and drive them daily? Maybe I should discuss BMW's? LOL
No but I don’t just post how great my BMW is in every thread lol
I also criticize BMW as much as i praise them.
Maybe understand CL is a global community and not everyone shares your enthusiasm for EVs either due to preference, due to infrastructure or due to their housing situation etc
This reminds me... a while back I read a post in similar manner from my cousin on his SM's wall... "This will be my last post." Lol.
Come on now... You posted something like this thread and seriously expected people not to talk about EV vs. ICE? "You asked for it" means I answered your question why you got this kind of responses. Wow "unwanted illegal immigrants". Really? Is this considered a baiting response? Lol. That's how you took it? I'm sure I've said a few things here and there that you and some EV folks here don't like but the truth is I always say things from my own experience, not like I read here/there or someone told me. I was on EV forums too. So I know the things I feel negative about Tesla are not uncommon. But when I brought them up, some of you either just don't want to acknowledge it or feel triggered for some reasons.
Would an EV sub forum prevent such "incident"? I don't have any saying/voting, but combining these is just fine IMO.
No, fighting always happens in forums. But it's obvious there are people who don't want us here, read the comments. I'm accused of always talking about EV's. I own EVs so I'm to talk about them and my experiences. If I do that in an EV specific forum, people who don't care to hear about EV's don't have to go into that sub forum, and vice versa. I don't know that's not logical
No but I don’t just post how great my BMW is in every thread lol
I also criticize BMW as much as i praise them.
Maybe understand CL is a global community and not everyone shares your enthusiasm for EVs either due to preference, due to infrastructure or due to their housing situation etc
And I'm going to keep posting how great they are. Don't like it? Ignore button
No, there will always be fighting and arguing, that's where moderating comes in, we are all human. But in most cases people who comment in an EV forum either want to contribute or learn something with the exception of maybe some trolling, but again, that's where mods come in
High level.
People want more freedom of speech here, but not if it makes fun of what they like or goes against what they like.
Do you really give a **** if someone makes fun of EVs? Or is trolling you about EVs online?
You know the truth, and you are not going to be swayed. Who gives a **** what RNM GS3 or anyone says.
Like, does the following really bother you?
I'm about to buy a Tesla and couldn't give a **** less what people say or think about it.
