Notices
Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Innova

General Car Conversation - 2026 Part 1

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 1, 2026 | 09:29 AM
  #2911  
1SICKLEX's Avatar
1SICKLEX
CL Community Team Leader
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 2,892
Likes: 837
From: The School of Hard Knocks
Default

Originally Posted by coolsaber
On the flip side, I have been surprised by how many new parents believe their first ideal mommy mobile should a Suburban Triplet until they hear what it costs new.

If you frequent Leashackr so many requests for $500 24/10K Suburban for their 3 person family.
My theory is it's just the McDonalds McMansion thing but with cars. People buy larger homes with rooms they rarely ever use. Same with a SUV, most seats are never used but "just in case". We have had cars only, we have had SUVs only, we now have a mix and the flexibility of having a SUV is unbeatable. I get it now. In my 20s the thought of having a SUV made me puke unless it was a really cool one. Today as a father, I totally get the popularity.

Also 30/20 years ago, SUVs were still pretty rough and were mostly not luxurious and rode harsh and handled poor. Today they drive just as good/better than many cars. The manufacturers were brilliant moving in this direction to make people happy, increase profits and make shareholders happy.
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2026 | 11:19 AM
  #2912  
SW17LS's Avatar
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
Active Streak: 60 Days
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 68,832
Likes: 4,107
From: Maryland
Default

Originally Posted by bitkahuna
you’re saying the x7 and gls are not 3 row crossovers?
Not like the kinds of vehicles we're talking about, we're talking about mainstream/premium transverse FWD style crossovers, not prestige driven RWD based performance SUVs like a GLS or X7.
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2026 | 11:23 AM
  #2913  
Och's Avatar
Och
Lexus Champion
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 17,035
Likes: 248
From: NY
Default

Originally Posted by SW17LS
Not like the kinds of vehicles we're talking about, we're talking about mainstream/premium transverse FWD style crossovers, not prestige driven RWD based performance SUVs like a GLS or X7.
This is so obvious, anyone pretending not to understand it is just playing dumb. A lot of X7/GLS drivers just want a big status SUV, they don't even use the third row.
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2026 | 11:24 AM
  #2914  
SW17LS's Avatar
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
Active Streak: 60 Days
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 68,832
Likes: 4,107
From: Maryland
Default

Originally Posted by Och
This is so obvious, anyone pretending not to understand it is just playing dumb. A lot of X7/GLS drivers just want a big status SUV, they don't even use the third row.
Its pretty hilarious...

I was watching Dutton Ranch last night, the woman Anette Benning plays was being chauffer driven in a black X7. When they choose a TX or an MDX or an Infiniti QX60 to show a rich business tycoon being driven I will admit I was wrong.

Last edited by SW17LS; Jun 1, 2026 at 11:26 AM.
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2026 | 12:16 PM
  #2915  
AJT123's Avatar
AJT123
Lexus Champion
10 Year Member
Community Influencer
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 17,180
Likes: 529
From: Knoxville, TN
Default

One question and sorry for OT--- do you have to know the show Yellowstone to follow this Dutton Ranch that EVERYONE is talking about?

I never saw Yellowstone.
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2026 | 02:35 PM
  #2916  
SW17LS's Avatar
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
Active Streak: 60 Days
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 68,832
Likes: 4,107
From: Maryland
Default

Originally Posted by AJT123
One question and sorry for OT--- do you have to know the show Yellowstone to follow this Dutton Ranch that EVERYONE is talking about?

I never saw Yellowstone.
Yeah, you should watch Yellowstone. You just won't know anybody's backstory or anything like that.

The Pacifica is in the shop having the OTHER side airbag recall done, and that HVAC actuator replaced and we have a CX-90 rental. RENTAL, since this dealer doesn't have loaners. Anyways this is surpisingly terrible. Uncomfortable, rides hard, not very refined. It has the Inline 6 but if you told me it was a 4 I would believe you, the steering is very heavy and the rack is one of the slowest steering racks I have ever driven, makes parking a real chore. Really surprised, we both totally hate it.
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2026 | 02:58 PM
  #2917  
mmarshall's Avatar
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 94,521
Likes: 261
From: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Default

Originally Posted by SW17LS

we have a CX-90 rental. RENTAL, since this dealer doesn't have loaners. Anyways this is surpisingly terrible. Uncomfortable, rides hard, not very refined.

Mazdas, in general, have a reputation for crisp handling and steering....one reason the auto press likes them. The down side is that it usually takes suspension-firmness and/or tire-firmness to get that response.....hence, a bumpier ride.
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2026 | 02:59 PM
  #2918  
SW17LS's Avatar
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
Active Streak: 60 Days
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 68,832
Likes: 4,107
From: Maryland
Default

Originally Posted by mmarshall
Mazdas, in general, have a reputation for crisp handling and steering....one reason some reviewers like them. The down side is that it usually takes suspension-firmness and/or tire-firmness to get that response.....hence, a bumpier ride.
I've driven several Mazdas and always quite liked them, but not this. The ride isn't even the big issue its just very unrefined and the steering is really bothersome at low speeds.
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2026 | 04:00 PM
  #2919  
coolsaber's Avatar
coolsaber
Lead Lap
Photogenic
Photoriffic
 
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 4,611
Likes: 371
From: In your head
Default

Originally Posted by SW17LS
I've driven several Mazdas and always quite liked them, but not this. The ride isn't even the big issue its just very unrefined and the steering is really bothersome at low speeds.
That program is the RWD, take the fight to BMW/German brands type thing?

Reply
Old Jun 1, 2026 | 04:02 PM
  #2920  
SW17LS's Avatar
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
Active Streak: 60 Days
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 68,832
Likes: 4,107
From: Maryland
Default

Originally Posted by coolsaber
That program is the RWD, take the fight to BMW/German brands type thing?
Lacks any sort of German RWD vehicle refinement
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2026 | 04:05 PM
  #2921  
coolsaber's Avatar
coolsaber
Lead Lap
Photogenic
Photoriffic
 
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 4,611
Likes: 371
From: In your head
Default

Originally Posted by SW17LS
Lacks any sort of German RWD vehicle refinement
The hybrids break as well.
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2026 | 04:12 PM
  #2922  
Striker223's Avatar
Striker223
Lexus Champion
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 18,368
Likes: 1,801
From: Ohio
Default

Originally Posted by coolsaber
That program is the RWD, take the fight to BMW/German brands type thing?
Yes indeed, but they misunderstood the fight and brought a knife to a gunfight
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2026 | 04:27 PM
  #2923  
SW17LS's Avatar
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
Active Streak: 60 Days
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 68,832
Likes: 4,107
From: Maryland
Default

Originally Posted by coolsaber
The hybrids break as well.
And the PHEV only has like 24 miles of range.

All the paint is peeling off the front end too. Does look good in the garage...


Reply
Old Jun 1, 2026 | 04:48 PM
  #2924  
Och's Avatar
Och
Lexus Champion
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 17,035
Likes: 248
From: NY
Default

A friend of ours had a Mazda CX9, last generation. She got into an accident a few years ago, I was helping her handle it to make sure it gets fixed right. I was surprised how unrefined it felt, and the build quality just wasn't there. Considering that i was somewhat based on the Mazda 6, I was very surprised, because Mazda 6 was awesome. Shame it has been discontinued.
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2026 | 05:05 PM
  #2925  
coolsaber's Avatar
coolsaber
Lead Lap
Photogenic
Photoriffic
 
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 4,611
Likes: 371
From: In your head
Default

Originally Posted by SW17LS
And the PHEV only has like 24 miles of range.

All the paint is peeling off the front end too. Does look good in the garage...

Wow whats the story on the CX90? Like did someone sandblast the front end while going doing the highway?

Mazda impresses these days with its heart beat turn signals. Very classy imo.
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:01 AM.