Roll back emission standards
I think we will all agree that safety versus freedom is always a balancing act. I am certain without the likes of Ralph Nader we would still be driving death traps. And I'm no fan of the guy. Let's put it this way, the best vehicles are fast, efficient, and safe. The downside may be price for some. So do people want bare bones trucks on the road with no safety equipment at all? Should that be legal? And when they crash leaving people maimed, disfigured and disabled who pays?
And, of course, also consider that some of the most risky and dangerous vehicles to come out of Detroit came out several years AFTER Nader published his book....the 1971 Ford Pinto and its notorious rear-impact/exploding gas tanks, the Chevy Vega of the same vintage with its notorious self-destructing engine and body/component-rust so bad that frame-strength was compromised, AMC vehicles in the late 60s with archaic vacuum-operated windshield wipers that jerked back and forth and worked only when they decided to work, Chrysler products of the time with non-power drum brakes that faded and started to lose effectiveness after just a couple of pedal-pushes, and grossly-over-engined muscle-cars from most of the manufacturers that could run like hell on the drag strip but couldn't safely do anything else...handle, turn, respond to the wheel, or stop in a reasonable distance...only a few Ford/Mercury products had really excellent brakes back then.
Last edited by mmarshall; Dec 7, 2025 at 08:19 PM.
I think we will all agree that safety versus freedom is always a balancing act. I am certain without the likes of Ralph Nader we would still be driving death traps. And I'm no fan of the guy. Let's put it this way, the best vehicles are fast, efficient, and safe. The downside may be price for some. So do people want bare bones trucks on the road with no safety equipment at all? Should that be legal? And when they crash leaving people maimed, disfigured and disabled who pays?
Let the best product speak for itself.
Specifically, I would not object to the window sticker on a new vehicle displaying: This vehicle is not equipped with airbags, ABS, tire pressure monitors, electronic stability control, back up camera... and so on.Nor would I object to a new vehicle on the same car lot displaying a window sticker listing any and all safety features.
Automobile and health insurance companies should be free to adjust premiums based on calculated risk.
Last edited by ChattanoogaPhil; Dec 8, 2025 at 08:44 AM.
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Specifically, I would not object to the window sticker on a new vehicle displaying: This vehicle is not equipped with airbags, ABS, tire pressure monitors, electronic stability control, back up camera... and so on.Nor would I object to a new vehicle on the same car lot displaying a window sticker listing any and all safety features.
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Specifically, I would not object to the window sticker on a new vehicle displaying: This vehicle is not equipped with airbags, ABS, tire pressure monitors, electronic stability control, back up camera... and so on.Nor would I object to a new vehicle on the same car lot displaying a window sticker listing any and all safety features.
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Last edited by Toys4RJill; Dec 8, 2025 at 08:39 AM.
In the 1980s and 90s, there was a "Gray Market" that existed to import cars (or versions of cars) from Europe that weren't available in the US due to our stricter regulations.
You are correct.....but, at the same time, Gray-market vehicles could also be a pain in the a** to import because of the massive amount of paperwork, exemptions, and red-tape involved.
then say goodbye to vehicle choice any fun, desireable, and reliable vehicles.
Last edited by 4TehNguyen; Dec 8, 2025 at 11:58 AM.
Consumers should be free to make informed decisions, including those related to safety. Some individuals choose to ride motorcycles, which are significantly more hazardous than even the least equipped autos on the road. Conversely, some choose new autos with safety features surpassing many modern vehicles on the road.
Specifically, I would not object to the window sticker on a new vehicle displaying: This vehicle is not equipped with airbags, ABS, tire pressure monitors, electronic stability control, back up camera... and so on.Nor would I object to a new vehicle on the same car lot displaying a window sticker listing any and all safety features.
Automobile and health insurance companies should be free to adjust premiums based on calculated risk.
Specifically, I would not object to the window sticker on a new vehicle displaying: This vehicle is not equipped with airbags, ABS, tire pressure monitors, electronic stability control, back up camera... and so on.Nor would I object to a new vehicle on the same car lot displaying a window sticker listing any and all safety features.
Automobile and health insurance companies should be free to adjust premiums based on calculated risk.
Last edited by swajames; Dec 8, 2025 at 12:18 PM.
Sedan sales are absolutely softer and becoming softer due to demand, not engineered limitation of options. All you have to do is look at sales figures, if you limited options and the demand was there for sedans, the remaining sedans would have big increases in sales and thats not what we are seeing. Sedan sales have been slipping for a very long time.
Those were due to safety regulations, not efficiency regulations. Even so though, that was 40 years ago. Since 1988 its been illegal to import any car to the US that was not originally approved to be sold here that isn't 25 years old.
















