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Old Dec 8, 2025 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Those were due to safety regulations, not efficiency regulations. Even so though, that was 40 years ago. Since 1988 its been illegal to import any car to the US that was not originally approved to be sold here that isn't 25 years old.
I understand ... I was using an older historical example to be heard more clearly in that instance.....
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I understand ... I was using an older historical example to be heard more clearly in that instance.....
And one that was actually accurate lol
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Ah yes, bring those V8s back to those who desire them.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Of course they lose money because of all the front loaded development and new platforms etc. EVs are the future, like it or not. Nobody is abandoning EVs. They will and are returning some focus to ICEs but if you think EVs are just going to "go away" and all of a sudden we're going to have large displacement engines again you're fooling yourself.
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Except GM is coming out with a massive 6.6L V8 that will go into millions of trucks that they invested $$900MM into. Ram Hemi V8s are gone in 1-5 days off the lots (average is 30 days), it's funny to watch the car mags talk down to us for wanting the V8. This doesn't mean anything nationally but I see dramatically less EVs on the road than I did a few years ago, it's noticeable.

Lke I said, EVs will always be around but the market share will always be low like it is now. I said optimistically new car sales EV registrations would get to 15% (ish) but I seriously doubt that even now. California rolled back the 2035 crap, even Europe did lol. We don't want them like so many people thought we did, I can't believvvvveeeee so many people (not here necc) didn't see this coming... I could have predicted all of this even lobotomized.

How many canceled EVs do I need to name? How many automakers have walked back their rhetoric?
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Why would anyone cheer on more pollution.
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Why would anyone cheer on more pollution.
Cars are so clean today it's ridiculous. They're basically the least of the world's worries when it comes to the environment.
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Go run your super clean car in your garage if you think it's so harmless.
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Cars are so clean today it's ridiculous. They're basically the least of the world's worries when it comes to the environment.
Gotta agree with AJT. We are obsessing ourselves today with clean exhausts and tailpipe emissions. The average vehicle today, as I have posted previously, emits ONE PERCENT of the emissions it did on the vehicles I learned to drive on in the late 60s.....at an enormous cost in money, time, and resources on the part of the automakers. It also set the stage for some scandals....like the famous VW Dieselgate.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
The average vehicle today, as I have posted previously, emits ONE PERCENT of the emissions it did on the vehicles I learned to drive on in the late 60s.....
FALSE. 1% of certain emissions, more of others.
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
Go run your super clean car in your garage if you think it's so harmless.
Sure, it will still harm you if you run it long enough....no one is denying that. The difference is that, today, on average, it will take a LOT longer to do so....a lot longer than if your EV battery explodes.
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
FALSE. 1% of certain emissions, more of others.
My statement was correct for the three major and most significant ones.


Originally Posted by Google
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The statement is largely accurate: new vehicles today emit
roughly 99 percent less of common pollutants (hydrocarbons, carbon monoxide, and nitrogen oxides) compared to those from 1970.

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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Sure, it will still harm you if you run it long enough....no one is denying that. The difference is that, today, on average, it will take a LOT longer to do so....a lot longer than if your EV battery explodes.
https://www.kbb.com/car-news/report-...-powered-cars/
https://interestingengineering.com/t...atch-fire-more
https://pissd.com/2024/09/do-electri...sive-analysis/
Based on the available data and studies, electric vehicles are not more prone to catching fire than gasoline-powered cars. In fact, the statistics indicate that EVs catch fire far less frequently than gas cars. Hybrid vehicles, which combine both gas engines and electric batteries, appear to have the highest fire risk.
If you still keep repeating your lie after this then you are engaging in wilful ignorance, the worst kind.
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
Go run your super clean car in your garage if you think it's so harmless.
Oh gosh we're so mad that we were wrong about EVs we're now telling ICE fans to go kill themselves..... LOL.

Modern cars are the least of the problem.

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Originally Posted by LeX2K
Why would anyone cheer on more pollution.
Because people don't actually care, they only care what they can get cheapest. Otherwise we wouldn't ship things overseas repeatedly, that where the real pollution is
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Oh gosh we're so mad that we were wrong about EVs we're now telling ICE fans to go kill themselves..... LOL.


Why would running your car in your garage be bad, super clean 99% cleaner in fact.
Modern cars are the least of the problem.
Everything that burns oil is a problem doesn't matter what it is.



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