Lexus LS - Discontinued
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Sad, but I'm not surprised. Half of us saw this coming.
Lexus just sucks now minus the LC. I was asked a car recommendation by my spouse's friend (she wants a decently large SUV) and I realized myself that Lexus currently offers nothing that would fit her needs.
That's pathetic.
She's going to look at a Tahoe because she likes them and they're big enough inside. And she insists on a pano roof that actually opens, since Lexus doesn't do that either.
I never would anyway but now I'm REALLLLLLY never gonna dump the LS430. It's the best car they ever made IMO. We don't need to argue over that, it's just my opinion.
Lexus just sucks now minus the LC. I was asked a car recommendation by my spouse's friend (she wants a decently large SUV) and I realized myself that Lexus currently offers nothing that would fit her needs.
That's pathetic.
She's going to look at a Tahoe because she likes them and they're big enough inside. And she insists on a pano roof that actually opens, since Lexus doesn't do that either.
I never would anyway but now I'm REALLLLLLY never gonna dump the LS430. It's the best car they ever made IMO. We don't need to argue over that, it's just my opinion.
TX has pano roof that opens and it’s spacious. 6ft passengers fit comfortably in 3rd row.
We've now entered a point where it becomes difficult to imagine how a new LS would even be able to differentiate itself from the ES. All the benefits of the LS over the ES originally - being a RWD architecture and having a more powerful powertrain - have been completed negated with the new ES EV. A battery allows even non-bespoke platform EV's to have almost equal weight distribution, and more power getting sent to the rear wheels to make a vehicle RWD-biased can be done with mere software programming in an EV. As for space, the new ES EV is more spacious than any LS ever was.
Short of Lexus pulling some insane pipe dream fantasy like making a V12 LS, there's just no point in it existing alongside the new ES.
Maybe just maybe will be like the Land Cruiser. The LS will come back in like three years. Goes back to the ORGINIAL LS roots. V8 , ultra roomy , smooth and relaxing . Like now of days people think every vehicle needs to be “sporty” and Lexus feel into that thought . A big barge like the LS, S560 , 7 series , A8 should be comfortable and relaxing first , sporty as an option.
the ES cannot fill the LS shoes . The IS I feel is soon also discontinued after the most current refresh.
wow, hell has frozen over.
genesis mimicks lexus in their line up in some ways and have their G90 as the current flagship. the G90 is much more luxurious than the LS500, but a GV90 SUV is coming that i expect to be amazing.
sedans just are no longer great as flagships as they’re too low and less space efficient. and big gas engines certainly make them all space inefficient.
trying to make all those thrashing cylinders, valves, turbo fans, batteries work very quietly AND efficiently is an exercise in futility at this point.
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TX she's not interested in because she thinks it's boring and she doesn't want 4 cylinders.
Like I said, it's sad that I can't even give a good Lexus recommendation because everything they offer sucks now except the LC. GX is decent but not big enough for family duty she needs.
BTW lol I now have two close friends within my circle who drive black on black Denalis, lmao. It's because of me, mostly. My one buddy just picked his '23 up yesterday, has already thrown rims on it. He used to hate on GM left and right but loves this truck, he's even admitting it to me which is a big step for him lol.
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The only part of DHP you can't get is the rear wheel steering (no idea why). The performance damper, LSD, and upgraded brakes are all standard equipment on Bespoke, and you can add the carbon roof for $2400.
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The hard truth is that sedans don’t sell and aren’t not going to be flagships. Lexus did the right thing killing off the LS, should have done it sooner.
Has nothing to do with packaging, lack of V8 etc. Look at other brands, sedans can’t command the premium asking price anymore.
Loyalist to the Lexus brand have been buying LX instead as a flagship.
Has nothing to do with packaging, lack of V8 etc. Look at other brands, sedans can’t command the premium asking price anymore.
Loyalist to the Lexus brand have been buying LX instead as a flagship.
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Even though the LS is no big deal anymore (that's putting it mildly), it IS a big deal that a car as iconic and rich with history is getting axed.
All the competition bought LS400s when they came out and took them apart head to toe just to study the engineering. Cadillac flat admitted they didn't even have the equipment, not to mention capability, to produce a car like the LS400.
All the competition bought LS400s when they came out and took them apart head to toe just to study the engineering. Cadillac flat admitted they didn't even have the equipment, not to mention capability, to produce a car like the LS400.
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Even though the LS is no big deal anymore (that's putting it mildly), it IS a big deal that a car as iconic and rich with history is getting axed.
All the competition bought LS400s when they came out and took them apart head to toe just to study the engineering. Cadillac flat admitted they didn't even have the equipment, not to mention capability, to produce a car like the LS400.
All the competition bought LS400s when they came out and took them apart head to toe just to study the engineering. Cadillac flat admitted they didn't even have the equipment, not to mention capability, to produce a car like the LS400.
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And I've spent lots of time in a GSF, when it's driven around normally it's quiet and serene, and silky like a Lexus should be. I don't see why the LC would be any different with the same engine.
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It is the same. If you aren't on it in the LC it's extremely quiet. It even has an active exhaust to help it's jekyl and hyde personality
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The current version doesn't share anything and should have been a new designation but Lexus didn't for some reason. Everything was changed for the most part