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Old Sep 15, 2025 | 03:23 PM
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Keyes don't die. Your phone does die once per day. But I might be the wrong person to talk about this, I don't even have bank apps on my phone nor a lock.
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Old Sep 15, 2025 | 03:51 PM
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Keyes don't die. Your phone does die once per day. But I might be the wrong person to talk about this, I don't even have bank apps on my phone nor a lock.
Keys absolutely do die. Your phone also retains enough charge even when the battery is dead to still work as an NFC key, they are designed that way for that reason.

The day when all I have to carry is my phone will be a great day IMO.
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Old Sep 15, 2025 | 05:48 PM
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Lexus gave me a 25 NX350h as a loaner a few weeks ago. Had never driven a car with HUD. It was fine and very visible to see, to the point it was somewhat distracting, but not if you had polarized sunglasses on. I’m assuming that’s the case with all cars, but it’s pretty stupid considering how many people wear polarized sunglasses.
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Old Sep 15, 2025 | 07:04 PM
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My GS has a HUD, and I absolutely love it, though it does take some getting used to. But yes, I did have to buy non-polarized sunglasses to keep in the car as polarized lenses flush it out.
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Originally Posted by MattO2786
Lexus gave me a 25 NX350h as a loaner a few weeks ago. Had never driven a car with HUD. It was fine and very visible to see, to the point it was somewhat distracting, but not if you had polarized sunglasses on. I’m assuming that’s the case with all cars, but it’s pretty stupid considering how many people wear polarized sunglasses.
hud conflict with polarized lenses varies by car. on my hyundai it does conflict. on my lexus lc, it doesn’t.
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Old Sep 16, 2025 | 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Keys absolutely do die.
I assumed he meant an actual metal physical key....
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Old Sep 16, 2025 | 06:24 AM
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Stuff like fender shields on a Ferrari
They have multiple prices points to suck cash out of folks
Standard, Carbon Fiber and Hand Painted
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Old Sep 16, 2025 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by S2000toIS350
Stuff like fender shields on a Ferrari
They have multiple prices points to suck cash out of folks
Standard, Carbon Fiber and Hand Painted
They aren't "sucking cash" out of anyone...those folks are fully willing participants.
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Old Sep 16, 2025 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by tex2670
They aren't "sucking cash" out of anyone...those folks are fully willing participants.
No question on the willingness point

Just saying they are useless features per the thread topic and added a bit of color related to the money aspect

I also use the term stab and grab related to the shields

I am sure there are excellent profit margins for these options, especially the hand painted ones for over $10K
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Old Sep 16, 2025 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MattO2786
Lexus gave me a 25 NX350h as a loaner a few weeks ago. Had never driven a car with HUD. It was fine and very visible to see, to the point it was somewhat distracting, but not if you had polarized sunglasses on. I’m assuming that’s the case with all cars, but it’s pretty stupid considering how many people wear polarized sunglasses.
yeah I personally have no interest in a HUD.

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I assumed he meant an actual metal physical key....
Whens the last time we had one of those!?!?
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Old Sep 16, 2025 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS



Whens the last time we had one of those!?!?
I have one in my pocket right now. Fortunately I haven’t had to use it, because Lexus will alert you for weeks of low key battery before it fails. But l like having it just in case.
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Originally Posted by Carfan94
I have one in my pocket right now. Fortunately I haven’t had to use it, because Lexus will alert you for weeks of low key battery before it fails. But l like having it just in case.
I mean a car that has regular keys and not keyless entry and start.
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Old Sep 16, 2025 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
MBs don't lock when you walk away, you have to press the handle to lock.
Dang it hasn't been that long and I forgot already. I thought ours did that. But according google, you're right. You need to touch to lock.

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Keys absolutely do die. Your phone also retains enough charge even when the battery is dead to still work as an NFC key, they are designed that way for that reason.
The day when all I have to carry is my phone will be a great day IMO.
Originally Posted by Vladi
Keyes don't die. Your phone does die once per day. But I might be the wrong person to talk about this, I don't even have bank apps on my phone nor a lock.
Originally Posted by Carfan94
I have one in my pocket right now. Fortunately I haven’t had to use it, because Lexus will alert you for weeks of low key battery before it fails. But l like having it just in case.
I may be biased but I think BMW has the best solution for this. They have fob, phone key and credit card key. All for free. God forbid... your fob/phone died/lost, you can still use credit card key. In case you also lost this key, your spouse can send you a "key" via text to any phone and you can still get the car going and go home. I find the CC key very useful when we go somewhere wet. The other guy also has all these features.
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Old Sep 16, 2025 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by timmy0tool
does the accented d-pillar count as a useless feature? it's always just distracted me rather than being part of the design.

there are many makes guilty of this style, some integrating them better than others!
It looks like it should serve a purpose of some kind but it doesn't.

Useless. Lol
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Old Sep 16, 2025 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 1111GS
I may be biased but I think BMW has the best solution for this. They have fob, phone key and credit card key. All for free. God forbid... your fob/phone died/lost, you can still use credit card key. In case you also lost this key, your spouse can send you a "key" via text to any phone and you can still get the car going and go home. I find the CC key very useful when we go somewhere wet. The other guy also has all these features.
Agree, you should get all 3 and then decide. For me the CC would stay in the car for valets etc, the keys would stay at home and I would use phone as key.
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