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Old Sep 12, 2025 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Carfan94
Not a useless feature anyway. Just poorly designed.

We are talking an about features you never actually use like fog lights.
I’ve always had a weird fondness of fog lights since childhood.
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Old Sep 12, 2025 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
I’ve always had a weird fondness of fog lights since childhood.
I think the yellow fog lights from the 90s Lexuses look cool.
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Originally Posted by Carfan94
I think the yellow fog lights from the 90s Lexuses look cool.
yes yellow fog lights are also cool. Not sure if they're useless though.
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Old Sep 13, 2025 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by np20412
editing to add a more useless feature: in-car wifi thru the vehicle itself. This is nothing more than a SIM card paired to an antenna, that operates worse than the phone in your hand would if you used it as a hotspot for some other device. As more and more wireless plans become unlimited, what is the point of car-based wifi?
auto high beam is utterly useless to me. With how bright our modern LED/HID lights are in this country and how they get aimed, there is almost no need for high beams at all, let alone automated ones. If you can't see well enough, just hit the stalk so you can. It's not hard to remember to turn it off when you see another car approaching, because at that point you don't need the high beam anymore as you can be reasonably certain where the road goes until you reach that oncoming vehicle.
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Totally disagree on the in car hotspots. Our kids play their tablets in the car, and having the hotspot makes them syncing up easy. The hotspots also get better signal that our phones because of the car's higher powered antennas.
Also disagree about the high beams. In the country where you don't have street lights high beams are absolutely necessary, and having them be automatic is a nice feature. Even better are dynamic intelligent LEDs like I have that allow you to use the highs all the time while they carve out cars to not blind them.
Hotspots: I like it too. I do have unlimited plan on my phone but I also have eSim for my BMW. With AT&T, when you reach the limit, it will slow down. It's also tied to my phone number. So if phone does not have signal for whatever reason, this eSim will ring. I also like it because BMW can not connect to your phone's WiFi, so the only way to play their youtube app is to have an eSim. And I really like watching it on their super wide screen. Lol. On a different brand, having WiFi will allow you to view intrusive events. When something like this happens, it would send to the app on your phone and you can see what's happened/happening. It also gives you better navigation and allows you to use apps like Youtube music and alike. So IMO, it's totally worth it.
High beams... of course it's supper helpful. Of course you can turn it on manually but that's one more thing to worry when you're on a windy dark freeway. Some brand even goes further and auto high beam remains on more and longer. They have algorithm that would not blind the car in front of you. So yeah, totally worth it IMO.

Now back to the OP...
BMW recently implemented a "home exclusion" unlock feature that when you're at home, once the car is locked (automatically when you walk away), it won't unlock when you approach the car again. I could see this as an "improvement" because before this if you walked around the garage with your phone, it would keep unlocking/locking which was very annoying. But for me, it's useless. They should exclude to lock at home like the other guy. Another useless feature is gesture control. It's sure cool but dang when you reach for your drink, it thinks you want to stop the music. Lol.
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Old Sep 15, 2025 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 1111GS
Now back to the OP...
BMW recently implemented a "home exclusion" unlock feature that when you're at home, once the car is locked (automatically when you walk away), it won't unlock when you approach the car again. I could see this as an "improvement" because before this if you walked around the garage with your phone, it would keep unlocking/locking which was very annoying. But for me, it's useless. They should exclude to lock at home like the other guy. Another useless feature is gesture control. It's sure cool but dang when you reach for your drink, it thinks you want to stop the music. Lol.
We use this feature on our Tesla, I think it would drive me crazy if it didn't have it and kept locking/unlocking when we're walking around the garage.
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Old Sep 15, 2025 | 10:05 AM
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I much prefer streaming music through the car's network. I find the connectivity is better
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Old Sep 15, 2025 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jwong77
yes yellow fog lights are also cool. Not sure if they're useless though.
pretty sure all foglights are useless
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Old Sep 15, 2025 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by jwong77
We use this feature on our Tesla, I think it would drive me crazy if it didn't have it and kept locking/unlocking when we're walking around the garage.
Ironically... BMW pushed out a new software update to improve some other stuff and at the same time erased that exclude home feature. Now back to locking/unlocking madness. Hopefully this is a good sign (that they're trying to implement it the way your band does) which I think it should be.
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Old Sep 15, 2025 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by tex2670
pretty sure all foglights are useless
Ive never driven in fog so dense that fog lights were any help.
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Originally Posted by jwong77
We use this feature on our Tesla, I think it would drive me crazy if it didn't have it and kept locking/unlocking when we're walking around the garage.
I really don’t understand the point of this passive locking and unlocking feature.

I prefer the old school smart key method of just grabbing the handle to unlock and pushing the button on the door to lock.
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Originally Posted by Carfan94
I really don’t understand the point of this passive locking and unlocking feature.
I prefer the old school smart key method of just grabbing the handle to unlock and pushing the button on the door to lock.
That's how MB does. You need to grab on the handle to unlock. But it does lock when you walk away. Some BMWs, when equipped, will unlock the car when you're approaching with your fob or phone, it will unlock for you and your passengers if you set up to unlock all. I find it useful but not at home. The other guy's way to exclude locking is more practical. Yet, some BMW owners would, for some reasons, want it the way BMW implemented.
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Originally Posted by Carfan94
Ive never driven in fog so dense that fog lights were any help.
The point was that regular headlights are too high for fog, and the beams reflect back at the driver's eyes and make it difficult to drive in fog. So fog lights are lower and aren't as prone to reflecting back. Except I've never had a car where you can only turn the fog lights on without the low beams...so then what's the point?
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Originally Posted by tex2670
The point was that regular headlights are too high for fog, and the beams reflect back at the driver's eyes and make it difficult to drive in fog. So fog lights are lower and aren't as prone to reflecting back. Except I've never had a car where you can only turn the fog lights on without the low beams...so then what's the point?
Some cars allow it, others can be coded to allow only fogs without the headlights. It is useful on the days there is serious fog
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Originally Posted by 1111GS
That's how MB does. You need to grab on the handle to unlock. But it does lock when you walk away. Some BMWs, when equipped, will unlock the car when you're approaching with your fob or phone, it will unlock for you and your passengers if you set up to unlock all. I find it useful but not at home. The other guy's way to exclude locking is more practical. Yet, some BMW owners would, for some reasons, want it the way BMW implemented.
MBs don't lock when you walk away, you have to press the handle to lock.
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Old Sep 15, 2025 | 02:38 PM
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does the accented d-pillar count as a useless feature? it's always just distracted me rather than being part of the design.

there are many makes guilty of this style, some integrating them better than others!

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