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Old Aug 13, 2025 | 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
X3 is a huge upgrade to the GLA
indeed. completely different vehicles. i didn’t and wasn’t comparing the two.

Originally Posted by geko29
Not even comparable really. The GLA competes with the X1, both tarted-up FWD-based econoboxes. X3 and GLC are classmates, and I'd argue the actual entry level for each brand's SUV lineup.
we have the cuv / suv distinction some make, but obviously the gla /glb / x1 / x2 are all front wheel drive. whether they’re “suvs” at this point is subjective, but clearly they’re the entry non-sedan vehicles.

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I could see me buying a CPO GLS or something to replace the Pacifica.
speaking of pacificas… never seen so many as there were on maui. 3 right here… and of course more jeeps.


Old Aug 13, 2025 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
LOL in high school one of my friends had an early 90s Cutlass with the infamous 3800 engine. He used to smoke my 4th gen 5 spd Accord.
Lol 3800 is famous, not infamous. They were great engines all around. Easily the best domestic V6 for a generation IMO. I'd happily drive a 3800 car today if it were that or some garbage 2.0t.

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the 3800 was in that Dustbuster?
Yep. It wasn't some fire breathing V8 or anything but that van seriously had some good pickup for what it was in 1994. I have told this story so apologies but newer members may not have heard it... once on the way to school my Mother got pulled over in a very conspicuous spot and the cop was like "What the hellll engine is in that thing.... ma'am, I was doing 75 just trying to catch up to you..." Then mom blamed the ticket on me lmao, "You were supposed to be watching!!!!" She taught at the same school complex that I went to and the busses went by as we were pulled over, lots of busses carrying her own students and they all saw us and asked her/made fun of her about it in her class. LMAO. That thing had some get up. I mean, for 1994. And my mother was always sorta hyper and coffeed up in the mornings so she'd have an especially heavy foot going to work. We still talk about that van every now and then lol.

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Old Aug 13, 2025 | 08:52 AM
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[QUOTE=Toys4RJill;11951933no way they did that.[/QUOTE]

Yep, they did:


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What a waste that was of money and resources.

I bet they sold about 18 hybrid LCs.
Old Aug 13, 2025 | 10:17 AM
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I can't imagine anybody with the money to buy an LC going for the V6 hybrid model LMAO.
Old Aug 13, 2025 | 10:27 AM
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OMGosh -- We were THERE !! Found the best shave ice -- evah!!
Old Aug 13, 2025 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
I can't imagine anybody with the money to buy an LC going for the V6 hybrid model LMAO.
I wasn't going to say anything but I agree... haha 😁 🍿
And it probably costs more too but I don't know if that's true tho.
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Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
I can't imagine anybody with the money to buy an LC going for the V6 hybrid model LMAO.
and yet bmw, mercedes and audi all sell tons of 6 figure V6 hybrid models.
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took an uber and the same driver as before didn’t have the suburban this time so we had to suffer lol in an s-class. guessing this is a year or two older but i love how it DOESN’T have the ski slope lower center screen mercedes is now using on some models.



like the puddle lamps.



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Old Aug 13, 2025 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
and yet bmw, mercedes and audi all sell tons of 6 figure V6 hybrid models.
I'm going to be a pedant and point out that BMW has sold exactly zero of those at any price point. I don't believe Mercedes has either, at least for the 6-figure cars. There was an E400 back in the day that was a V6 hybrid, but nowhere near $100k.

Now, both manufacturers have certainly paired already-powerful twin-turbo straight sixes with hybrid assist in very expensive cars. Engines that were already good enough to be the base engine in those cars on their own. The idea of a halo Grand Touring car with only a 2GR and nothing else is frankly absurd. Adding a hybrid motor doesn't really change that.
Old Aug 13, 2025 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Yep, they did:

Didn't see that coming. Maybe Japan still carries the hybrid

Originally Posted by geko29
The idea of a halo Grand Touring car with only a 2GR and nothing else is frankly absurd. Adding a hybrid motor doesn't really change that.
The LC500h uses the 8GR..

Originally Posted by bitkahuna
and yet bmw, mercedes and audi all sell tons of 6 figure V6 hybrid models.
with ya mate. The LC500h makes a perfect compliment to someone who might already have a full battery EV and maybe doesn't want the wild raucous V8

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Originally Posted by geko29
I'm going to be a pedant and point out that BMW has sold exactly zero of those at any price point. I don't believe Mercedes has either, at least for the 6-figure cars. There was an E400 back in the day that was a V6 hybrid, but nowhere near $100k.

Now, both manufacturers have certainly paired already-powerful twin-turbo straight sixes with hybrid assist in very expensive cars. Engines that were already good enough to be the base engine in those cars on their own.
and i’m going to be a pedant and say you’re wrong, they’re all doing it, bragging about it … and that mild hybrids are still hybrids with all the complexity.




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I think there's a chance these setups are going to start slowly vanishing.... Not completely or anything.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
took an uber and the same driver as before didn’t have the suburban this time so we had to suffer lol in an s-class. guessing this is a year or two older but i love how it DOESN’T have the ski slope lower center screen mercedes is now using on some models.



like the puddle lamps.

Thats a W222, which is what my 2020 S560 was.

Originally Posted by bitkahuna
and i’m going to be a pedant and say you’re wrong, they’re all doing it, bragging about it … and that mild hybrids are still hybrids with all the complexity.



Totally different than the LC500h, thats a regular I6 with the 48v system, same as what I have with the TTV8, that has no hybrid drive characteristics at all where the LC500h does.

Its not about the complexity its about the hybrid drive and how that eliminates much of the LC's character.



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