I don't listen to rhetoric, that's what I said. I'm fine with lowering our carbon footprint, but I'd like cars and trucks with V8 engines for example and not to be lectured by the tv.

And I don't want to debate what we're really not supposed to debate, controversy. Though your opinion noted and respected.

 

I can't even talk about those lives lost... right now is the time for grieving and dealing with the shock.

We have doctors in this country saying they got what they deserved because they denied climate change... literally. Children who have no concept nor care of any of that. Gone.

 

But not listening to rhetoric is only part of what I said, I also said you gotta listen to experts instead. I used to live across the street from one of the directors of the NOAA, we sat out on my deck and talked about all of this many times. The gasses we unnaturally release into the atmosphere cause the buildup of CO2 in the atmosphere and that causes higher temperatures. Higher temperatures cause the strength of most types of storms to increase. Those are just the facts. There are significant differences in the climate here than when I lived here as a kid 40 years ago. We don’t get anywhere near as much snow, our temps are higher and we have MUCH stronger storms in the summer. The same story is true all over the world. High air and sea temperatures have a huge impact on weather, high sea temps make hurricanes much stronger.

I like V8 engines too, but unquestionably the right thing for the climate is to go to smaller engines with electric assist because those engines just use much less fuel and release far fewer greenhouse gasses. For most consumers it’s also not an issue, it sucks for us as enthusiasts and I get that. But it’s not really as bad for us as it was for car enthusiasts in the 70s, imagine what it was like to have to trade your awesome American muscle car in for a Toyota Corolla with 65 hp. Yet…what’s what cleaned the air up in LA and we appreciate that today.

No caring person is saying anything of the sort. BUT, it is very frustrating for scientists to be constantly told they don’t know what they are talking about by laypeople when they so clearly see and understand the issue. Very frustrating.

 

Oh I know basically a weather scientist with top secret government clearance lol. She's actually one of my really good friends. Our conversations might be different than yours.

Hurricanes aren't inherently stronger. There were devastating hurricanes 100+ years ago, and stretches of years and years of bad ones going wayyy back. The weather patterns over my 43 years here, it's a cycle. The way I say how we got 10 inches of snow 2 years ago (more than in 30 years). We got decent snow again last year. It'll be like that for another year or two, and then we won't get jack shyt for like a decade. It's a cycle. It did this in 2010-11ish and again in '23 which is what I'm talking about. Before that it was when I was in college in 2002ish. UT actually closed school, that just doesn't happen. Before that was the blizzard of '93 about ten years prior (that's the one 30 years ago). It's a pattern here. Same with the heat and cold.

 

Not to argue with you, but can you source that? I know a lot of actual medical professionals and scientists, one of them being our immunologist and research scientist daughter who is developing cutting edge genome and molecular level cancer treatments, and not one thinks like that. There is always a lot of misinformation flying around whenever anything terrible happens.

 

Hurricanes have absolutely been getting stronger over the last 15 years or so. The number of high category hurricanes has been steadily rising year over year. The cause is warmer water and air.

 

I didn't say that, but you're joking if I'm supposed to believe just whatever "some scientist" throws at me. With all due respect, I might find your guy completely full of it.

And oh yes, a doctor--a pediatrician--- did say that....that children like she treated for a living who just were killed deserved it. She'll never have a job again. She needs to change her name and even then it'll follow her for life. Doctors take oaths to help ALL people. A doctor has to, by oath, give equal and best care to anyone... including some piece of shyt on death row.

She deserves to lose her medical license, already she's fired.

 

Texas floods are from expanding into known flood planes and severity is increased by all the corresponding road etc causing even more drainage issues.

It's a matter of ignoring known data. Don't build on a bad location no matter how easy or profitable it may be if you aren't willing to eat the cost even if it's not supposed to happen more than maybe once. Like living below a dam is better than the Texas situation because at least the dam is maintained and designed vs just sprawling more

 

I’m sure there is some quote out there bandied around, obviously no truly caring medical professional would ever say or think such a thing.

 

But here is my question. If my guy (she’s actually a girl) says something that you think makes her full of it…she is a doctoral climatologist and a director at the NOAA, who are you or I to say she’s full of it? Her entire life’s work and energy has been spent studying this very subject and becoming one of the leading experts in the subject on earth. How can you or I argue with her on the subject? The issue is not everybody opinion is of equal value. She’s also not the only person I have ever talked to about this. You won’t find many scientists who don’t believe in global warming.

Im not sure what point that makes. Terrible people exist everywhere and in every field.

The issue is not everybody can choose where they live, and 1,000 year floods are statistically supposed to happen every 1,000 years. Not every year.

 

Very easy. Lol
Reason why it's becauase theoretical science and it Pays Well.

Key word >> theoretical.

Huge money in carbon stuff, $$$ Billions.
However, not to be confused with air pollution, totally different and legit.

Dig down the rabbit hole in theoretical physics for more big laughs. 🤣

 

Let me ask you a question about your friend...

Does she believe climate change is the single most dangerous thing we as humans and a planet face?

Because if she does, she doesn't live in reality and therefore is delusional. No offense. So yeah, everything she says would be BS to me. That's the biggest joke of the world. Otherwise I'd be happy to listen to her.

I just told you I have also a friend who would probably refute what your friend says. She's as qualified as anyone to talk about this stuff.

It's hard to agree on controversial stuff.

 

"Carbon stuff" and "air pollution" are the same thing. We're talking about releasing CO2 into the atmosphere, not carbon credits etc.

Nobody becomes a climatologist for the pay LOL

Its not hard to agree when the people discussing have all been to college and earned degrees in the "controversial stuff" and made studying it their life's work. Its only hard to convince people who don't have that knowledge and experience to listen to them vs their own uneducated opinions. America is a breeding ground of people with GEDs that think they need to be listened to with equal weight besides degreed experts lol. I highly doubt your friend and my friend would disagree, and I'm not saying you are one of those people.

I think your question needs to be clearer. The most dangerous thing...the most dangerous thing in general or the most dangerous naturally occurring process of the planet? More dangerous than war for example? More dangerous than disease? I will text her and ask her.

A LOT of people die because of climate change...way more than you realize...

 

I think you’ve both made your positions clear. I thank you for keeping it civil, but let’s move on.

 

For sure.