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Old Jul 5, 2025 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
Auto Start/Stop is irrelevant for me in the summer as I always have the car on MAX A/C which is one of the conditions in which it won't shut off at a stop.

Yes, that is usually the case with max AC, but it may still shut off if battery voltage or charging-rate drops while the AC is running.
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Old Jul 6, 2025 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
The fact that they do these things when we have so many big important things to deal with is part of my problem lol

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The EPA? Yeah I agree.

I get pounds and pounds and pounds of JUNK mail every single week. It drives me crazy, just a complete waste of paper and time and money even if it's not mine. Can they do something about that? That might not be "important important" but it would be a good start.

At least when I'm driving my guzzlers I'm actually getting somewhere.
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Old Jul 6, 2025 | 04:12 PM
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The current EPAs problem with these things is really nothing to do with their efficacy or otherwise, and everything to do with the broad rejection of anything and everything to do with climate science.

As for junk mail, it does at least drive tax revenue. Most of those pieces of direct mail are taxed at the point of delivery. My company builds software that among other things works out and handles the determination, calculation, reporting and payment of tax due on these transactions.
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Old Jul 6, 2025 | 04:51 PM
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Climate science says we need to force China and India in line and stop using sea shipping lol!
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Old Jul 6, 2025 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Climate science says we need to force China and India in line and stop using sea shipping lol!
It also said that Florida would be underwater .... in the year 2000.

Though I agree China and India need to deal with their issues....not so much us (at least, compared to them). We lead the world in emissions reducing tech and they just pollute pollute pollute.

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China, the US and India are generally accepted to be the three biggest contributors of pollution and GHG. China is the biggest, by some margin, but by most metrics the US is the second largest contributor.

https://www.iea.org/commentaries/the...n-the-bottom-1

https://www.technologyreview.com/202...ate-emissions/

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Old Jul 6, 2025 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by swajames
everything to do with the broad rejection of anything and everything to do with climate science..
there is no broad rejection. The constant push, and insistence of reminding and pushing the issues onto every day regular citizens is the problem. There is also the issue of the short term financial impact that is too much for a lot folks. Yes, likely the long term issue will be more financially consequential, but most are too busy just trying to get by today, they don’t care about the costs 30 years from now. There is also the issue of the 1970s push when it was “we need to warm” the planet that some
might not know of. Apparently the science was wrong.
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"Earth at the tipping point!!"

LMAO.
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Old Jul 6, 2025 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by swajames
China, the US and India are generally accepted to be the three biggest contributors of pollution and GHG. China is the biggest, by some margin, but by most metrics the US is the second largest contributor.

https://www.iea.org/commentaries/the...n-the-bottom-1

https://www.technologyreview.com/202...ate-emissions/
Now normalize for GDP.....we are insanely better.
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Old Jul 6, 2025 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
"Earth at the tipping point!!"

LMAO.
Bringing it back to cars. There is evidence that the severity of the hurricanes has caused car insurance in Florida to become the most expensive in North America. And home owners insurance as well.
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Old Jul 6, 2025 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Now normalize for GDP.....we are insanely better.
China’s GDP is a whole lot closer to the US than you might think, and if you adjust for purchasing power parity it is ahead. China is also growing faster, albeit the relative rate of it is slowing. You then need to factor in population. The US, per capita, is an extraordinarily heavy consumer and it reflects in the outsize contribution we make to things like this. We do make a massive contribution to the development of clean tech as you say, but we are cleaning up only some of our own mess. We have, as a nation, also made the biggest contribution by far to total GHG over the long term, more than china, and the carbons we put up there many years ago are still up there. The IEA report I posted covers this.

Don’t underestimate China. We do so at our peril.

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Originally Posted by swajames
China’s GDP is a whole lot closer to the US than you might think, and if you adjust for purchasing power parity it is ahead. China is also growing faster, albeit the relative rate of it is slowing. You then need to factor in population. The US, per capita, is an extraordinarily heavy consumer and it reflects in the outsize contribution we make to things like this. We do make a massive contribution to the development of clean tech as you say, but we are cleaning up only some of our own mess. We have, as a nation, also made the biggest contribution by far to total GHG over the long term, more than china, and the carbons we put up there many years ago are still up there. The IEA report I posted covers this.

Don’t underestimate China. We do so at our peril.
We have a higher GDP with WAY fewer people. They are a threat yes and need to be crushed quickly before it's an issue
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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
Bringing it back to cars. There is evidence that the severity of the hurricanes has caused car insurance in Florida to become the most expensive in North America. And home owners insurance as well.
There was a hurricane worse than any recent one in like the year 1902.....

But yes, Florida has expensive insurance.
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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
We have a higher GDP with WAY fewer people. They are a threat yes and need to be crushed quickly before it's an issue
We do, but we need to look at it the other way around. With their massively larger population, even relatively small increases in GDP per capita still drive to large numbers. China’s GDP per capita is nowhere near ours, but growing faster. We can’t be complacent.
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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
We have a higher GDP with WAY fewer people. They are a threat yes and need to be crushed quickly before it's an issue
For now. That is changing and eventually their GDP will dwarf ours.
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