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Old Mar 2, 2025 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Probably the most UN-Buick ever built....along with the 2-seat Reatta. The only reason Buick built the Grand National and GNX, like with the 60s-vintage GS (Gran-Sport) muscle-coupes, was to show the world that it could, if needed, compete in that field. But muscle-cars were never really Buick's forte, and (I hope) never will be. Their primary mission is upmarket comfort/semi-luxury.

Yep....too loud for me, too.
Actually Buick has a long history of making muscle cars.
Old Mar 2, 2025 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Actually Buick has a long history of making muscle cars.
And they are some of the coolest ones IMO
Old Mar 2, 2025 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
@AJT123 probably wouldn’t drive it because it doesn’t have a V8😆
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Oh it's got the 3800 (before it was officially called that) though. Huge fan. I'd drive a car with a late 3800 today over virtually any 2.0t and not think twice. You could get 30mpg with them and still have good ole American grunt down low.

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Old Mar 2, 2025 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
Thats one of those cars iykyk

Have you taken your plaid or GTR to the track?
Ive only taken one of my cars to that track years ago and not the Plaid or GTR. I used to go up there to watch test and tune on Friday nights with some friends and we would just drink and watch and laugh at some of the cars up there from real drag cars to kids who would bring their parents wagon or minivan up there. Used to even see a semi without its trailer run.

I do have a Draggy that I’ve used when I had my M340 when I was modding to see what the gains were but I haven’t tried it out on the Plaid or GTR yet.
Old Mar 2, 2025 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Oh it's got the 3800 (before it was officially called that) though. Huge fan. I'd drive a car with a late 3800 today over virtually any 2.0t and not think twice. You could get 30mpg with them and still have good ole American grunt down low.
‘Buick once had a 6.6 V8 back in the 1980s
Old Mar 3, 2025 | 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
‘Buick once had a 6.6 V8 back in the 1980s
Though the 403 V8 did appear in several Buick products, it was technically an Oldsmobile engine, and ended production in 1979. It also made an incredible.....185hp.

The last true Buick V8 was a 350 that ended production in 1980. The 231 V6 in the Grand National and the legendary 3800 V6 are both direct descendents of this engine.

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Old Mar 3, 2025 | 07:33 AM
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looks like an expensive fix…
Old Mar 3, 2025 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
looks like an expensive fix…
pretty sure it was like a $9,000 option to begin with so i'd assume so lol... it was removed from the GLE after only a year or so but still available on the GLS
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Spotted this along our 550 mile road trip. A parachute on a car, that’s a fast car!! Especially on a MKIV
Old Mar 3, 2025 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by geko29
Though the 403 V8 did appear in several Buick products, it was technically an Oldsmobile engine, and ended production in 1979. It also made an incredible.....185hp.
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Uncle Sam ruined engines back then, too. It was choked with emissions bullshyyyt, late 70s gas crunch, etc. Unmolested that motor made a HELLUVALOT more than 185hp.
Old Mar 3, 2025 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
Spotted this along our 550 mile road trip. A parachute on a car, that’s a fast car!! Especially on a MKIV
you love to see it!!! the combination of 1200hp supra + winnebago is an interesting one lol
Old Mar 3, 2025 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Stroock639
you love to see it!!! the combination of 1200hp supra + winnebago is an interesting one lol
towing combo getting 5mpg.
Old Mar 3, 2025 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
towing combo getting 5mpg.
the supra is still probably the thirstier one of the two lol

plot twist: the RV is 2JZ swapped
Old Mar 3, 2025 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Stroock639
pretty sure it was like a $9,000 option to begin with so i'd assume so lol... it was removed from the GLE after only a year or so but still available on the GLS
Just a strange set up.
Old Mar 3, 2025 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Uncle Sam ruined engines back then, too. It was choked with emissions bullshyyyt, late 70s gas crunch, etc. Unmolested that motor made a HELLUVALOT more than 185hp.
Only if you believe that emissions are imaginary. As much as it sucked for power while they figured things out, it's undeniable that those regulations improved air quality.



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