General Car Conversation 2025 - Part 1
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I just simply don't give a damn when it comes to speed and I'm willing to say as much, I am also much less likely to have an issue with outright speed vs inability to function due to substances. We have so many examples of unlimited zones having lower crash rates vs impairment going hard on the other direction it's easy to see what the risk is.
Fast driving isn't anything like being out of position, a car out of position at 40 mph is far mare dangerous than a car gliding at 150+ between packs and slowing to pass the group or on a backroad with no blind entry points that you also slow down to normal speed around. Stats back this up as well, I also don't drive cars in excess of what they can do on a given road.......and in many dense places I'm under the speed limit because here is just too many other cars driving however they want.
Im not going to attempt to drive fast in my Jetta for example since it takes way too long to both speed up and slow down distance wise and can't hold the road the same way. Equipment dictates limits and that's respected to an extent or we would have model T compatible speed limits still.
Fast driving isn't anything like being out of position, a car out of position at 40 mph is far mare dangerous than a car gliding at 150+ between packs and slowing to pass the group or on a backroad with no blind entry points that you also slow down to normal speed around. Stats back this up as well, I also don't drive cars in excess of what they can do on a given road.......and in many dense places I'm under the speed limit because here is just too many other cars driving however they want.
Im not going to attempt to drive fast in my Jetta for example since it takes way too long to both speed up and slow down distance wise and can't hold the road the same way. Equipment dictates limits and that's respected to an extent or we would have model T compatible speed limits still.
When you don't obey the law its hard to argue that other people are wrong for not obeying the law.
In my experience driving under the influence of marijuana is more dangerous than alcohol.
Last edited by SW17LS; Apr 21, 2025 at 02:44 PM.
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True, but I'm specifically talking about the effects of alcohol, weed and other recreational narcotics. I've just been around too many impaired people (including a family member), and its not once been a pleasant experience. But this is a free country, people can do and use what they want
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And other people don't give a damn about driving when they have had a few drinks as long as they are under the legal limit. At least that is legal. Hell, lots of people don't care about driving over the legal limit and thats no more illegal than what you do.
When you don't obey the law its hard to argue that other people are wrong for not obeying the law.
In my experience driving under the influence of marijuana is more dangerous than alcohol.
When you don't obey the law its hard to argue that other people are wrong for not obeying the law.
In my experience driving under the influence of marijuana is more dangerous than alcohol.
Second to last sentence is interesting considering you had admitted to using a federally illegal substance. Guess I'm too boring of a person since I haven't lol!
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True, but I'm specifically talking about the effects of alcohol, weed and other recreational narcotics. I've just been around too many impaired people (including a family member), and its not once been a pleasant experience. But this is a free country, people can do and use what they want
Second to last sentence is interesting considering you had admitted to using a federally illegal substance. Guess I'm too boring of a person since I haven't lol!
Last edited by SW17LS; Apr 21, 2025 at 03:03 PM.
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I’ll rather line up on highway next to striker and do a 60-130 pull vs being on the road with an impaired person.
A speeding impaired person even worse.
Interwebs is full of highway safety patrolmen(women), insurance adjusters and lawyers. Have to expect cyber pushback from posting anything that makes those feel remotely unsafe to be on the same road with you. Because everyone else is following the laws of the road to a T.
I don’t think striker real name is squeeze
A speeding impaired person even worse.
Interwebs is full of highway safety patrolmen(women), insurance adjusters and lawyers. Have to expect cyber pushback from posting anything that makes those feel remotely unsafe to be on the same road with you. Because everyone else is following the laws of the road to a T.
I don’t think striker real name is squeeze
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I’ll rather line up on highway next to striker and do a 60-130 pull vs being on the road with an impaired person.
A speeding impaired person even worse.
Interwebs is full of highway safety patrolmen(women), insurance adjusters and lawyers. Have to expect cyber pushback from posting anything that makes those feel remotely unsafe to be on the same road with you. Because everyone else is following the laws of the road to a T.
I don’t think striker real name is squeeze
Striker is this you👀🤣
A speeding impaired person even worse.
Interwebs is full of highway safety patrolmen(women), insurance adjusters and lawyers. Have to expect cyber pushback from posting anything that makes those feel remotely unsafe to be on the same road with you. Because everyone else is following the laws of the road to a T.
I don’t think striker real name is squeeze
Striker is this you👀🤣
Last edited by AMIRZA786; Apr 21, 2025 at 04:04 PM.
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Yeah, um I've seen plenty of people like this cause massive accidents, but they usually flee the scene leaving like a little coward with their tail tucked. It's one thing if you're on a highway with nobody around you, it's another doing asinine driving like that in traffic. I'll pass on both drunk drivers as well as a hole drivers
i'm reminded of the expression "rules for thee, but not for me." 
even if somehow someone is below .08 after TEN BEERS (not happening) they ARE IMPAIRED and their REACTIONS and JUDGEMENT are not at their best.
and in fact, in florida at least, you don't have to exceed .08 to have a dui and it doesn't have to be alcohol either.
hardly ever isn't never, so if you do blow over .08, do you not drive?
do you still drive in that situation?
so you're justifying drink driving because you feel using cell phones while driving is more dangerous.
concerning? ANY impairment or distraction while driving is a problem and WRONG, whether technically illegal or not. knowingly and voluntarily ingesting, drinking, smoking or whatever mind and mood altering substances and then driving is just WRONG. and thankfully in florida, if impairment is detected, the person is getting a dui.
doesn't make either ok.
you're not being fair at all... so i shouldn't drive if i have a candy bar? give me a break.
you're great at rationalizing your own behavior while trashing others.
and in fact, in florida at least, you don't have to exceed .08 to have a dui and it doesn't have to be alcohol either.
"Driving Under the Influence (DUI) of alcoholic beverages, chemical substances, or controlled substances is one offense, proved by impairment of normal faculties or an unlawful blood alcohol or breath alcohol level of .08 or above. The penalties upon conviction are the same, regardless of the manner in which the offense is proven."
I actually have a breathalyzer that I keep in the car, and even after having multiple drinks I hardly ever blow over a .08.
I actually have felt too drunk to drive and still have blown under a .08.
To me thats whats concerning about marijuana and driving, I know *I* can't drive after taking a 10 MG gummy. But, lots of people can and there isn't a legally recognized threshold...
In my experience driving under the influence of marijuana is more dangerous than alcohol.
you're great at rationalizing your own behavior while trashing others.
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Can we all at least agree that something you may do in the privacy of your own home or other private location is very different than something you choose to do in public. One only impacts you and those who choose to be around you, the other can impact anybody who happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. These two situations are not equal.
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hardly ever isn't never, so if you do blow over .08, do you not drive?
do you still drive in that situation?
so you're justifying drink driving because you feel using cell phones while driving is more dangerous.
concerning? ANY impairment or distraction while driving is a problem and WRONG, whether technically illegal or not. knowingly and voluntarily ingesting, drinking, smoking or whatever mind and mood altering substances and then driving is just WRONG. and thankfully in florida, if impairment is detected, the person is getting a dui.
But, I can absolutely have a couple of drinks and drive safely and legally. I cannot however eat a gummy and drive.
doesn't make either ok.
you're not being fair at all... so i shouldn't drive if i have a candy bar? give me a break.
you're great at rationalizing your own behavior while trashing others.
you're great at rationalizing your own behavior while trashing others.
Last edited by SW17LS; Apr 21, 2025 at 07:55 PM.
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Can we all at least agree that something you may do in the privacy of your own home or other private location is very different than something you choose to do in public. One only impacts you and those who choose to be around you, the other can impact anybody who happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. These two situations are not equal.