about impact... nothing good.

 

you think they should be granted a contacted saying no automation. that increases prices on everything due to inefficiency. nice.

i guess you think there should be no automation in auto production or other industries too?

 

Fight it out at the bargaining table.

I like the idea of handcrafted products. I think MB has some engines that are hand made. Same with Corvette. Too bad Toyota doesn’t

 

You can like the concept for certain components of niche products without it being a good idea across every aspect of an entire industry. Fully hand-built Corollas would cost well over $60k, between the drastically higher production costs and the dramatically smaller volume constraining supply. Your 4Runner would easily top $100k. People who are not millionaires need cars too.

Even Rolls Royce uses some automation in the production of their bespoke automobiles. Your $600k Phantom? Painted by a robot, because it does a better and more consistent job than even the most talented artisan.

 

they don't. they may be hand assembled with extra human checks for precision of measurement and fit, but that's it.

a cylinder head is not 'hand made'.

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of course there needs to be some automated process . It’s a negotiation, they want no automation, let’s see what happens. . The workers have been up against automation for over 100 years in this segment

I am amazed at the disgust towards workers in this thread.

 

It's not the workers, it's the greedy unions.

 

you say greedy corporations, i say greedy and unrealistic union workers. as you say, there will have to be a compromise, but the union believes it's in a strong position especially with an election and (current) white house support.

it could well cause a nice recession later this year, not to mention massive shortages and thousands of containers stuck off shore.

 

Blanket no automation is ludicrous. How about just adapting to automation like every other industry? I am very pro union but that one demand is something that gives unions a bad reputation to the public at large. I agree in general with the other demands that they have though.

 

so i believe they're asking for 77% raise over 7 years, so 11% a year. maybe the company should agree to it as their actions could make inflation go higher than that. that would be ironic.

 

And I am likewise amazed by the level of disgust towards the entrepreneurs who produce the majority of jobs for said workers.

 

I've been thinking about this thread and changed my mind. Lol

I don't know how many man hours are involved per container but if it's only 1 man hour, I say pay them.

A container holds a lot of goods so slap a hundred dollar bill on it and give it.

These people spend their money in the local economy, I hope. Lol

 

no chance it's only 1 man hour. i don't know all the job roles but i know there's a bunch.

even if it just holds toilet paper?

if this argument is valid, then why not triple their pay? then they'd have loads of money to spend on the local economy while EVERYONE pays more for everything.

 

10% per year (1.10^6=1.77), but agreed. I can't think of any other industry in which a guaranteed raise of 10% per year, every year, for every employee is in any way reasonable.

 

Well-spoken, Jill. I agree. One must also remember that much of what we eat and drink (if it comes from overseas), wear, buy in stores, drive, and generally depend on for much of our day-to-day life is made possible by those workers who load and unload the ships....along, of course, with truck/train-operators, farmers/ranchers, and many others.