The top wage is $39 an hour for a regular worker.

 

Which with overtime, works out to over $200,000/year for roughly a third of them. Now they want a 77% raise, which is $144k before overtime or over $350k with.

 

they won’t get that much. But they need a raise. There needs to be some sort of good faith negotiation

 

Yes, a raise certainly wouldn't hurt, but IMO what is needed far more is job-security. A raise does little good if it ultimately costs you your job.

 

Thanks, my salesman called me and they seem to still be getting cars delivered so he said I shouldn’t be affected by this. Now if the EPA would just certify these cars that would be great.

 

The problem is that technological progress stops for no one. If we want to stop automation and become less competitive, then another country find a solution to this problem and will come and eat our lunch.

 

...until all that computer-controlled stuff gets hacked.

 

The same can be said for....... banking, the IRS, the military, energy production.....

Please name any aspect of our economy that has no "computer controlled stuff" to hack.

 

The very first thing you learn in security is that the human computer is the easiest one to hack. And it's so completely true.

But like jwong77 said, EVERY industry is rife with automation. From as simple as the door at the grocery store that opens for you as you walk up, through fully automated lights-out warehouses and robots that 3D print houses.

If your fears had any basis in fact, there would be literally hundreds of national news stories every day about major industries being completely shut down. Do things happen occasionally? Yes, of course. But then again, they happen when humans are involved too. Right here you have a case where the docks have stopped functioning because an outside actor (The "hacker" in this scenario) has convinced the majority of the workforce that they should be making $69/hr plus oodles of overtime for unloading boxes. In addition to mass hacks like this one, there have been innumerable cases of the compromise of individual and small groups of dock workers, to the tune of literally trillions of dollars in thefts from the docks over the decades.

So of course the best solution is to pay someone $354,000/year to push the little button that raises the bar to let trucks through the gate. Never mind the fact that at docks where an automated gate HAS been implemented, overall labor costs have gone UP because the dock became more efficient and there was more value-added work for the longshoremen to do.

 

^^Well said!

 

Shipping companies have made record profits at these ports. Many of the off shore. Good for the workers making a good wage. That money doesn’t go to the greedy corporations and instead goes back into the local US community/economy

 

Keep in mind without those "greedy corporations " there wouldn't be the ships, infrastructure, facilities etc. that provide the jobs in the first place.

 

the workers were offered 50% wage increase over the 5 years. Workers want 77%. I think 60% is a good compromise.

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and communications, and transportation, and retailers and medical facilities and government in general, and on and on and on.

the only solution to tech weaknesses is more tech, not less.

and as was said by gecko, the humans are the weakest link (by far) in security. (bribes, blackmail, manipulation, fakery, etc)

i guess then paying them a million dollars a year to do simple jobs would be even better for the 'local' communities.

their issues are more complex than just wages, they want NO automation. i heard this morning that automation is in their CURRENT contract. they say they want jobs for their 'families' (meaning next gens) forever, without automation and giant wages. that's preposterous.

i just googled port automation. a company like this one seems like the union's biggest threat.

Sea Port Automation | RADWIN
https://radwin.com/sea-port-automation/


resistance is futile.

 

good for them. Hope they succeed.