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I can't tell you what's 89%, but there are a lot more than the RS4 that are 40:60, either using a mechanical Torsen or Audi's own Crown Gear for torque distribution. Like our run-of-the-mill Q7 grocery-getter, which is Type B Torsen. It is 40:60 F:R by default, and can go as high as 15:85 and as low as 30:70. So "almost exclusively" in the bolded statement is a massive overstatement. I want to say the RS4/5 is actually 30:70 by default, but I wouldn't stake my life on it.
What you are describing at the end of your post is the new "Quattro Ultra" system originally introduced in the current Q5. It is very similar to a Haldex system, and has clutches in the rear diff that are disengaged by default, making it FWD until AWD is necessary. Older A3s and such (TT, etc) used true Haldex as they were platform-shared with the Golf/Jetta.
But overall Audi's setup in their larger cars is a weird "tweener" that doesn't fall neatly into either the FWD-based or RWD-based bucket for AWD. From the A4 on up, engines are longitudinally mounted like RWD-based systems and have the rear driveshaft coming directly out of the transmission like RWD-based ones do (rather than a separate diff/transfer case as in many FWD-based cars), which helps dynamics. But that transmission is actually a transaxle, and drives the front wheels directly, rather than via a prop shaft to the front diff. So in that way it resembles FWD-based systems, and the lack of the prop shaft pushes the engine forward a bit. They do wind up a bit more front-heavy as a result--especially V8 models due to the length of the block. That's why you find a lot more V6 options, along with larger engines with shorter blocks like the W8/W12, to keep the weight as far back as possible.
well i appreciate you and striker taking me to school! to be fair i was basing much of my assumption on tuning the cars in gran turismo and forza lol, when it comes to differential bias almost every audi defaults to 50:50... i love the audis for dirt racing but on a track they feel heavy and dull compared to say an older M3 or C63
audi is very interesting to me, their engineers are possibly even more stubborn than porsche engineers haha... they've invented such remarkably effective and creative solutions just to get around a simple inherent design "flaw"
either way, as far as i can tell the audis generally send their power to the rear wheels as a reactive measure which is a big part of where the "audisteer" becomes apparent when pushed to the limit
Originally Posted by Stroock639;11785474either way, as far as i can tell the audis generally send their power to the rear wheels as a [i
reactive[/i] measure which is a big part of where the "audisteer" becomes apparent when pushed to the limit
That might be the case in Gran Turismo. But when I back out of my driveway at 2mph, 3/5ths of the miniscule power necessary to do so comes from the rear.
My friends and I like road trips and hear Mid Ohio is a pretty cool track. We’ll bring the Honda 4 bangers. Bring your best Audi and meet us on track. Your W12 sounds perfect. We each get 4 cylinders a piece🤝
My friends and I like road trips and hear Mid Ohio is a pretty cool track. We’ll bring the Honda 4 bangers. Bring your best Audi and meet us on track. Your W12 sounds perfect. We each get 4 cylinders a piece🤝
well i appreciate you and striker taking me to school! to be fair i was basing much of my assumption on tuning the cars in gran turismo and forza lol, when it comes to differential bias almost every audi defaults to 50:50... i love the audis for dirt racing but on a track they feel heavy and dull compared to say an older M3 or C63
audi is very interesting to me, their engineers are possibly even more stubborn than porsche engineers haha... they've invented such remarkably effective and creative solutions just to get around a simple inherent design "flaw"
either way, as far as i can tell the audis generally send their power to the rear wheels as a reactive measure which is a big part of where the "audisteer" becomes apparent when pushed to the limit
I implore you to try one IRL, the only reason I got Audis is because they drove the best and were the most reactive to my inputs on test drives vs their rivals. Power is not sent reactively at all, it's fully preemptive otherwise stuff like the TVD can't work correctly. The haldex stuff is reactive and trust me, those Audi owners get laughed at and mocked for those systems by the rest of us!
Different time trial class but head to head C5 should overtake it.
Yes S2ks are pretty popular on track even with its recent inflation of price. They are momentum cars but can still be a rowdy ride when pushed.
That would be my fear of using an S2K on track, I wouldn't want to kill one on accident!
In regards to the class thing that is the least important metric to me, like when I shoot I do not care what class I'm in, I'm there to top the board. Period. I don't use the cope of "well I'm shooting production class so NATUALLY I can't beat an open shooter" Nah, I still beat them. With cars I care about how well they do their job, for my daily I want a literal car, that is able to give me the most of everything possible for a reasonable price. I am reserving spending stupid money for when my house is paid off but I am trying my hardest to buy a supercar before I'm 30
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My friends and I like road trips and hear Mid Ohio is a pretty cool track. We’ll bring the Honda 4 bangers. Bring your best Audi and meet us on track. Your W12 sounds perfect. We each get 4 cylinders a piece🤝
You would be up against an R8 if you come next year, a 2017 V10+ to be specific......the W12 is my daily driver lol!
Actually the whole reason I have it is because I gave in to the reality that I would need to split the jobs across two cars instead of trying to force an S8 to be fast on track when it's just too heavy.
That 1:24 wasn't bone stock, he's also on upgraded rubber and likely some other upgrades here and there. Nevertheless, 5 seconds is a big difference.
Another well known track driver Kevin Burke in an S2000 sold his track-built C7 Grand Sport to invest more in his boosted S2000 as they were having similar laptimes. At the end of the day, the S2000 chassis is serious and has lots of track potential. That's why 2 decades later and they're still very prominent in the track scene.
S2ks very popular on track. Another buddy of mine had a C7 grand sport and he too sold it for a S2K for tracking.
Originally Posted by Stroock639
well i appreciate you and striker taking me to school! to be fair i was basing much of my assumption on tuning the cars in gran turismo and forza lol, when it comes to differential bias almost every audi defaults to 50:50... i love the audis for dirt racing but on a track they feel heavy and dull compared to say an older M3 or C63
audi is very interesting to me, their engineers are possibly even more stubborn than porsche engineers haha... they've invented such remarkably effective and creative solutions just to get around a simple inherent design "flaw"
either way, as far as i can tell the audis generally send their power to the rear wheels as a reactive measure which is a big part of where the "audisteer" becomes apparent when pushed to the limit
See a sprinkle of E36s as well.
Originally Posted by Striker223
That would be my fear of using an S2K on track, I wouldn't want to kill one on accident!
In regards to the class thing that is the least important metric to me, like when I shoot I do not care what class I'm in, I'm there to top the board. Period. I don't use the cope of "well I'm shooting production class so NATUALLY I can't beat an open shooter" Nah, I still beat them. With cars I care about how well they do their job, for my daily I want a literal car, that is able to give me the most of everything possible for a reasonable price. I am reserving spending stupid money for when my house is paid off but I am trying my hardest to buy a supercar before I'm 30
Originally Posted by Striker223
You would be up against an R8 if you come next year, a 2017 V10+ to be specific......the W12 is my daily driver lol!
Actually the whole reason I have it is because I gave in to the reality that I would need to split the jobs across two cars instead of trying to force an S8 to be fast on track when it's just too heavy.
Hey welcome that too. I only have 1 track car. Their “other” special track cars are 450hp Evo 8 on Hoosiers and a 911.
The FWD enthusiast record at Road Atlanta is 1:34 in a Type R with laundry list of mods. My first time there I ran a 1:39 with Stock interior, stock suspension with a boost leak losing 6psi with a laggy top end turbo made for the street(I’m losing corner exit speed). Then I popped a fuel line so I was done for the weekend. Here’s the car below that ran a 1:34. Looks like I would’ve placed 3rd that day.
My Civic apparently has the ability to gauge and report oil degradation. It shows oil life % and oil changes are typically between 4-5k miles.
Unrelated, but I always use premium octane gasoline
I don't think the honda MMI dash is that sophisticated... usually just correlates to miles driven. at least on 7th gen accords, tsx and my 17 mdx. and its usually around 5k miles
But when I back out of my driveway at 2mph, 3/5ths of the miniscule power necessary to do so comes from the rear. 
