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Old Dec 10, 2024 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
I doubt this was staged. This guy's elevator doesn't get to the top floor.

He's of that entitled generation, look how he throws his jacket......
Dude's 35 according to the news articles and I don't think his age has anything to do with his behavior. My most entitled clients are in their 60's and 70's.
Old Dec 10, 2024 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Uncle Sam realllllllllly messed things up...

We will lease something if we get the new car itch but I just don't see cars made today lasting 20 plus years like ones made in the "golden era". I honestly don't want a car made in 2024 to keep forever. Like I said we could lease something new and that would be fine. Stuff just isn't built for the long haul anymore. We just replaced a 4 year old Water Heater and had to pay for all the labor to the tune of 4 figures. My mother has the most expensive fridge you can buy and it's junk that actually rots food, etc. Our modern washer and dryer are just okay at best. Our dishwasher sucks.

This extends to cars, too. I just imagine a 2024 S-class 20 years from now would be a mess. The tradition of "classic Mercedes" will continue and these cars will be so complex with all these electric motors and other fancy tech and need lots and lots of attention. It's going to be a challenge in the future I think.
Have you moved on from your next vehicle being a LC? Wanna come to the dark side?💀
Old Dec 10, 2024 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
Have you moved on from your next vehicle being a LC? Wanna come to the dark side?💀
Oh no. It'll just be a minute. I bet that car is solid as a rock. It weighs like 4500lbs. Not a vehicle designed around fuel economy.

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Old Dec 11, 2024 | 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Oh no. It'll just be a minute. I bet that car is solid as a rock. It weighs like 4500lbs. Not a vehicle designed around fuel economy.
I hear it does well on highway high 20s low 30s mpg which I think is great for a V8.
Old Dec 11, 2024 | 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
We will lease something if we get the new car itch but I just don't see cars made today lasting 20 plus years like ones made in the "golden era". I honestly don't want a car made in 2024 to keep forever.
I have full confidence that my 14, 7, and 2 year old cars will make it easily past 20 years. The 7-year-old Q7 may get traded before it reaches that point with us, because our needs will have changed.
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NYS has a emission/safety inspection required every year for $38. The registration is about $200 for two years.

For emission they hook up to the computer. Safety, they check the tires, shocks, brakes, etc. It varies by shop how much effort they put into it.

My father-in-law's X5 was due a few months ago. The shop I usually use wouldn't pass it. They have this new shop manager who is trying to squeeze people for more repair work apparently. I would usually drop it off and the inspection guy who I've been friendly for 15 years would take care of it. This time the manager called me. He told me I needed new tires and the rear shocks were leaking but never offered to put it on a lift to show me. He said if he passed me and I got into a crash next day it would come back to him and lose his license. How much for two rear run flats and shocks? $1,800.

I found a different place through a friend. $38 and the guy didn't even look at my tires or brakes or shocks.
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If you think back 20 years or so, people weren't buying cars in 2004 thinking a) cars had reached their zenith and they suddenly had a car they'd want to keep for 20 years or more or b) reminiscing wistfully about cars aren't how they used to be in the good old days back in 1984.

Not to say I don't appreciate older cars, but for me the golden age is actually the here and now. Cars today are generally safer, faster, do more, are feature-upgradable and are more efficient.
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Originally Posted by geko29
I have full confidence that my 14, 7, and 2 year old cars will make it easily past 20 years. The 7-year-old Q7 may get traded before it reaches that point with us, because our needs will have changed.
Neither here nor there, but do you plan to keep them all that long? I have zero problem driving 20 year old cars as long as they're standouts. No payments, lol.

Our needs will never change, I doubt we'll dump the LX ever ('13-'15 is my overall favorite 200), so they're all staying. The '22 Yukon won't ever be dumped, it's quite possibly the last pure ICE GM BOF with the rumbling V8. I hope not but I suspect GM may hybridize the next gen big BOFs. More of me thinks they probably won't hybridize. Plus the new refresh Yukon came out and it looks like shyyt compared to ours, they made it look like the cheaper models and EV Sierra up front with the headlights and updated grill. The '22 is never going anywhere. See below:



Hideous update, they fixed something NOT broken. The inside is updated which people will like with a huge screen (that's all the rave these days), but all the redundant buttons everywhere are gone which I don't care for. They did leave some physical buttons like temperature which is appreciated.

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Old Dec 11, 2024 | 10:46 AM
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Hideous update, they fixed something NOT broken. The inside is updated which people will like with a huge screen (that's all the rave these days), but all the redundant buttons everywhere are gone which I don't care for. They did leave some physical buttons like temperature which is appreciated.
I don’t understand the obsession with the big screens? That’s all the normies seem to care about now.

I buy my cars to drive them. Screen size does not factor into my purchase at all.
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I don’t understand the obsession with the big screens? That’s all the normies seem to care about now.

I buy my cars to drive them. Screen size does not factor into my purchase at all.
Right, and ours has quite a nice at least 1080p screen to begin with. But glorious buttons also for everything below. How American.

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On the topic of burnt out Hyundai tail lights.....I'm going to take pictures when possible of cars I see with the issue



You can actually see the left side is partially melted inside
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Yeah H/K definitely have issues with their incandescent brake lights burning out. I notice it too!
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Originally Posted by AJT123
We will lease something if we get the new car itch but I just don't see cars made today lasting 20 plus years like ones made in the "golden era". I honestly don't want a car made in 2024 to keep forever. Like I said we could lease something new and that would be fine. Stuff just isn't built for the long haul anymore. We just replaced a 4 year old Water Heater and had to pay for all the labor to the tune of 4 figures. My mother has the most expensive fridge you can buy and it's junk that actually rots food, etc. Our modern washer and dryer are just okay at best. Our dishwasher sucks.
While its true appliances don't last as long as they used to, you're just buying bad stuff if you are having all these issues. A 4 year old water heater is still under warranty, and you select them based on their lifespan, I regularly see 6 year water heaters (the cheapest) that are 20 years old, just labor to replace a water heater is nowhere near 4 figures. Appliances last on average 10-15 years. "Most expensive fridge you can buy" what are we talking about? You can spend $25,000 on a refrigerator. I have a new Bosch dishwasher and it does an incredible job washing our dishes. Our LG front load washer and dryer also do a great job.

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Neither here nor there, but do you plan to keep them all that long? I have zero problem driving 20 year old cars as long as they're standouts. No payments, lol.

Our needs will never change, I doubt we'll dump the LX ever ('13-'15 is my overall favorite 200), so they're all staying. The '22 Yukon won't ever be dumped, it's quite possibly the last pure ICE GM BOF with the rumbling V8. I hope not but I suspect GM may hybridize the next gen big BOFs. More of me thinks they probably won't hybridize. Plus the new refresh Yukon came out and it looks like shyyt compared to ours, they made it look like the cheaper models and EV Sierra up front with the headlights and updated grill. The '22 is never going anywhere. See below:
They will go 48V for sure.

Personally I think the pre-refresh Yukons look dated now, the refresh Yukons and Tahoes are really good looking IMO. The interior upgrades alone are huge.
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Originally Posted by Striker223
On the topic of burnt out Hyundai tail lights.....I'm going to take pictures when possible of cars I see with the issue



You can actually see the left side is partially melted inside

First, how can you tell it is melted inside from this angle and distance...and not simply a burnt-out bulb? Second, I see many one-eyed and one-tailed vehicles of all makes...Hyundai and Kia do not seem to be any more common than anyone else.

I will say this, though....that Florida license-plate may (?) give one clue. If it spends a lot of time down on or near those warm salt-air Florida beaches, that could corrode some components if they are not well-insulated.

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Originally Posted by SW17LS
While its true appliances don't last as long as they used to, you're just buying bad stuff if you are having all these issues. A 4 year old water heater is still under warranty, and you select them based on their lifespan, I regularly see 6 year water heaters (the cheapest) that are 20 years old, just labor to replace a water heater is nowhere near 4 figures. Appliances last on average 10-15 years. "Most expensive fridge you can buy" what are we talking about? You can spend $25,000 on a refrigerator. I have a new Bosch dishwasher and it does an incredible job washing our dishes. Our LG front load washer and dryer also do a great job.
Please work on shytcanning it with basically calling people liars.

I just had to pay $11xx in labor for a new water heater. Want me to post the receipt??? Because something might not make ideal sense to you doesn't mean the other person is full of it.

I even had to pay a $1xx difference in costs of the new but identical water heater at Home Depot when they traded it out. I'm getting corporate involved with that one.

You like your Bosch dishwasher, great. We have one that wasn't cheap and it's a piece of crap. All of the HE bullshyt is, that's the problem. Our washer and dryer suck compared to the old school ones. No, my mom doesn't have a $25,000 fridge but it was very expensive and it's a piece of junk that literally rots veggies and cheese when you put them in their respective drawers. My old school Whirlpool fridge is way better, the kind where the ice dispenser is the metal thing rotating in the ice bucket and out the front door, simple but effective. I hope it NEVER breaks.

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They will go 48V for sure.

Personally I think the pre-refresh Yukons look dated now, the refresh Yukons and Tahoes are really good looking IMO. The interior upgrades alone are huge.
I'm not sure about that. I think it's possible but, I dunno. Less likely than more, imo. We'll see! If they do, thank god we got the last Denali that's pure ICE. In 20 years with all these hybrids and complexity it's going to be a challenge when you have ICE vehicles that will be chugging along just fine.

They all look good but they made the refresh look like other cheaper models and copy the Sierra EV style headlights. I don't like it at all, it looks more feminine (nothing wrong with that...but a Yukon Denali is butch) and lost some bossiness.

The interiors look more modern, but I like lots of regular buttons so it's fine. I actually really like the shifter setup in ours, if I can't have my column shifter which I would love then this is the next best thing. They replaced this with a teeny stalk on the right side of the steering wheel which I don't like. You can hit the Park button in ours going 5mph and the truck will gently but abruptly stop, it's kind of neat actually.



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