Tesla Full Self Driving Thread
At the risk of falling into the "just wait for Version X.X" trap, 14.3 does specifically address the merging issue as well as being generally a lot faster to react along with a lot of other enhancements.
At the risk of falling into the "just wait for Version X.X" trap, 14.3 does specifically address the merging issue as well as being generally a lot faster to react along with a lot of other enhancements.
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/2...401806265?s=20
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/2...401806265?s=20
I wonder where does FSD go from here. The whole autonomous driving hype is pretty much dead, and a bunch of companies have dropped their autonomous driving programs. Tesla has the advantage of having a bunch of loyalists willing to pay for FSD, but as they are becoming more of a mainstream brand, how much longer can they sustain investing in this useless tech?
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Putting aside all the bs Elon has spouted regarding FSD over the years, I am sure the engineers actually working on the system are doing their best in good faith to improve it and address as many issues as possible. But since there are infinite dynamic real world scenarios, their efforts are futile. Some technologies simply plateau, for instance speech and hand writing recognition, and FSD is pretty much DOA as far as it's claimed purpose goes.
I wonder where does FSD go from here. The whole autonomous driving hype is pretty much dead, and a bunch of companies have dropped their autonomous driving programs. Tesla has the advantage of having a bunch of loyalists willing to pay for FSD, but as they are becoming more of a mainstream brand, how much longer can they sustain investing in this useless tech?
I wonder where does FSD go from here. The whole autonomous driving hype is pretty much dead, and a bunch of companies have dropped their autonomous driving programs. Tesla has the advantage of having a bunch of loyalists willing to pay for FSD, but as they are becoming more of a mainstream brand, how much longer can they sustain investing in this useless tech?
Last edited by AMIRZA786; Yesterday at 06:56 PM.
Putting aside all the bs Elon has spouted regarding FSD over the years, I am sure the engineers actually working on the system are doing their best in good faith to improve it and address as many issues as possible. But since there are infinite dynamic real world scenarios, their efforts are futile. Some technologies simply plateau, for instance speech and hand writing recognition, and FSD is pretty much DOA as far as it's claimed purpose goes.
I wonder where does FSD go from here. The whole autonomous driving hype is pretty much dead, and a bunch of companies have dropped their autonomous driving programs. Tesla has the advantage of having a bunch of loyalists willing to pay for FSD, but as they are becoming more of a mainstream brand, how much longer can they sustain investing in this useless tech?
I wonder where does FSD go from here. The whole autonomous driving hype is pretty much dead, and a bunch of companies have dropped their autonomous driving programs. Tesla has the advantage of having a bunch of loyalists willing to pay for FSD, but as they are becoming more of a mainstream brand, how much longer can they sustain investing in this useless tech?
regardless, the position you’re trying to articulate simply isn’t borne out by reality. The reality is that despite being a still nascent technology FSD has already reached a level of maturity so far ahead its competition that you could forgive them for giving up, because Tesla isn’t. And with that said:
- if you believe speech and writing recognition have plateaued you clearly are not following the industry. Not only are both continuing to evolve, the pace of change is accelerating with speech in particular seeing massive investment.
- Unsupervised FSD, from both Tesla and others, is already here. The consumer (supervised) version FSD is effectively a fork of the RoboTaxi code base. RoboTaxi runs on a standard Model Y and doesn’t have any additional inputs.
- Tesla is dominant in the US. You might as well be claiming that the search engine industry is dead because Ask Jeeves is no longer in business and you’re choosing to ignore Google.
- Rumors continue that other manufacturers may well become FSD licensees. This would be the smartest play for pretty much everyone else at this point.
- Unsupervised FSD, from both Tesla and others, is already here. The consumer (supervised) version FSD is effectively a fork of the RoboTaxi code base. RoboTaxi runs on a standard Model Y and doesn’t have any additional inputs.
- Tesla is dominant in the US. You might as well be claiming that the search engine industry is dead because Ask Jeeves is no longer in business and you’re choosing to ignore Google.
- Rumors continue that other manufacturers may well become FSD licensees. This would be the smartest play for pretty much everyone else at this point.
- Tesla is dominant in the US. You might as well be claiming that the search engine industry is dead because Ask Jeeves is no longer in business and you’re choosing to ignore Google.
- Rumors continue that other manufacturers may well become FSD licensees. This would be the smartest play for pretty much everyone else at this point.

I don't just believe it, it's observable. Voice commands in any modern car are just as confused and useless as they were in 2008, iphone 17 dictation returns the same word salad as iphone 7. They don't even begin to address accents and mixed languages.
Lol, this is exact the same koolaid as when Autopilot/FSD were first announced, you're falling for the "fell for it again and again" award.
Lol, this is exact the same koolaid as when Autopilot/FSD were first announced, you're falling for the "fell for it again and again" award.

Others can judge which of us has approached this discussion with integrity and is posting from a position of actual knowledge.
So when I talk about you not engaging in good faith, a significant part of that is the very obvious reality that you have absolutely no idea about any of these things, and you try to move the goalposts when you get found out. A good example of that would be your unqualified and incorrect statement about speech recognition, and then the attempt to limit it to its deployment in cars, Which is still incorrect.
Others can judge which of us has approached this discussion with integrity and is posting from a position of actual knowledge.
Others can judge which of us has approached this discussion with integrity and is posting from a position of actual knowledge.
Even when the FSD system was neutered by elimination of a radar for obvious cost cutting reasons, they were somehow spinning it as an improvement for the system to rely on cheap cameras alone. You can say the technology is amazing from the research point of view, but in real world application it is just a gimmick, and will forever stay in perpetual state of being a gimmick. From what I see, in the years since it's launch there hasn't even been a marginal improvement to speak of, as it keeps making the same basic mistakes.
and 'from what you see'?
I'm not hating on the tech itself, but it's available to people with IQ below room temperature, and they abuse it and endanger everyone else on the road.
you can believe what you want... but if you believe it hasn't improved in the 4 years you were gone from CL, you're just unaware, dunning kruger, or trolling. it's not just 'fanboys' that appreciate it. there's millions of users that appreciate the relief from tedious driving which most driving is these days.
https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/26/wa...rucks-program/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argo_AI
https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...xi-2024-12-10/
https://www.reuters.com/business/ube...on-2020-12-07/
Ignoring Elon's wild claims, here are some of your pearls from 9.5 years ago, how are your predictions going?

Kids born in 2017 are almost 10 years old, still there will be no point for them to get a driver's license in 2033? I'm sure next FSD update coming out in two weeks will fix all the issues.

And just like a decade ago, the transcribed voice mails are still a word salad that takes a human brain that can recognize context and make sense out of the gibberish.

Damn, I really wish I had one of them intelligent robots, last snow storm this February I was shoveling for 14 hours straight.

Yeah, they also vote and post their opinions on the internet, lol. It's hilarious.
Last edited by Och; Today at 09:00 AM.
Well that's not at all creepy, obsessive behavior...
My diagnosis: From the evidence available in this thread, it looks like we could reasonably conclude that you''re a recalcitrant, truculent, luddite stalker with a crippling speech impediment.
My diagnosis: From the evidence available in this thread, it looks like we could reasonably conclude that you''re a recalcitrant, truculent, luddite stalker with a crippling speech impediment.
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