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Old Oct 11, 2025 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
Does the heads up show your range?
As it’s currently configured it doesn’t but I believe you can customize. However I do know it shows range when you hit reserve fuel which I’m too familiar with. 🫣

Originally Posted by swajames
Phone / watch as a key (or smart card as a key) generally does not require cellular service as the key uses Bluetooth LE or RFID for smartcards. RFID doesn't require any power but it has a very limited range. Bluetooth LE has a reasonable range.

So yes, there may be edge cases where your watch and phone are out power and you would need another way to access the car.

But at the risk of pointing out the blindingly obvious, you could also lose your physical keys. Does that mean physical keys are not "ready for real world use"?

As an aside, if I were to rely on my phone for my truck and I lost the phone or it ran out of power, I can access my truck using a keypad and I can start and drive the car using a PIN/password. My truck doesn't require any kind of key if you have the keypad and have set up the PIN/password.

We went on a roadtrip only to find out after leaving home we didn’t have any physical key job or the digital credit card style key. Car was ran from digital key on our phone. If for some reason, it failed hundreds of miles away we would’ve been screwed.
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Old Oct 11, 2025 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
Make sense. But bit said that the app had to reboot, likely can’t reboot unless on cellular or the iPhone is needed close by
You need neither cellular service nor an iPhone nearby to reboot an apple watch.
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Old Oct 11, 2025 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
Doesn't sound like the technology is really ready for real world use. What happens if the app needs updating and there is a weak or no cellular signal
i’ve not heard of requiring an app update to get the key function to work.
and you don’t need cell signal to restart an app or the whole watch.

Is the watch on a cellular plan?
yes, but not needed for the key function, it works over bluetooth.

Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
Make sense. But bit said that the app had to reboot, likely can’t reboot unless on cellular or the iPhone is needed close by
no idea where you get your info but as swajames also points out, that isn’t true.

anyway, i have the tesla ‘credit card’ style key in my phone wallet if for some reason my watch or phone doesn’t work.
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Old Oct 11, 2025 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
Make sense. But bit said that the app had to reboot, likely can’t reboot unless on cellular or the iPhone is needed close by
You really need to use Google more. Just saying stuff and hoping it sticks doesn't make it true
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Old Oct 11, 2025 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
as i wrote, when it didn’t work i restarted the app on the watch and it worked.
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i’ve not heard of requiring an app update to get the key function to work.
and you don’t need cell signal to restart an app or the whole watch.
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There is no way one can update an app without data or wifi
…restarting the app is different than updating an app.


anyway, i have the tesla ‘credit card’ style key in my phone wallet if for some reason my watch or phone doesn’t work
so venturing out with just the watch is not real world ready.

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Old Oct 11, 2025 | 03:28 PM
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You can still access the car with an old app. I don't understand what the conflict is here. The credit card key is for if your phone or watch dies
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Old Oct 11, 2025 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Allen K
You can still access the car with an old app. I don't understand what the conflict is here. The credit card key is for if your phone or watch dies
We're talking about EV'S here. So we have to find something negative to grab on to and hold tight
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Old Oct 11, 2025 | 03:36 PM
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I would venture out with just the watch or the phone for a key no problem.
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Old Oct 11, 2025 | 03:41 PM
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Since 2023 I've been using only my phone to drive both our Tesla's with zero issues except the occasional restarting BT, which takes literally 3 seconds. I can't wait until they add support for Android watches... although I still need my phone for other things, like posting here on CL
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Old Oct 11, 2025 | 03:52 PM
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I would venture out with just the watch or the phone for a key no problem.
just the phone yes. Not sure about just a watch
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Old Oct 11, 2025 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Since 2023 I've been using only my phone to drive both our Tesla's with zero issues except the occasional restarting BT, which takes literally 3 seconds. I can't wait until they add support for Android watches... although I still need my phone for other things, like posting here on CL
Same here, I only use my phone as a key even when my old Tesla had two key fobs. I never used the fobs and only used them to give to someone when they were working on my car. I wouldn’t use my watch for a key only since I always have my phone with me but it would be a good backup.

I trust the Tesla phone as a key 100% since I have NEVER had a problem with it to drive even when the phone wouldn’t connect to the car for some reason and it has done that a few times recently even after a reboot of the car and phone.

With my old BMW I just didn’t trust my phone only as a key and always had the fob on me.

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Old Oct 11, 2025 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
just the phone yes. Not sure about just a watch
You remind me of my dear mum who wouldn't leave her Pentium II computer running Windows 95 because she wanted to continue using a 20 year old 16-bit word processing program. God bless you
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Old Oct 11, 2025 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Since 2023 I've been using only my phone to drive both our Tesla's with zero issues except the occasional restarting BT, which takes literally 3 seconds. I can't wait until they add support for Android watches... although I still need my phone for other things, like posting here on CL
More reason to make the switch to 🍎📱⌚️



I know you won’t. You will buy a hybrid before that happens😆
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Old Oct 11, 2025 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
More reason to make the switch to 🍎📱⌚️



I know you won’t. You will buy a hybrid before that happens😆
When hell hath freezed over 🤣
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Old Oct 11, 2025 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
More reason to make the switch to 🍎📱⌚️

and just wait till Tesla adds Apple Car Play…just another reason to switch to 🍎

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