EQS, EQE, i4, Lucid, Rivian's, Lyriq, Model S & X etc all support 350 kW charging (Model S & X support 250 kW charging). If none of those are for you, than you are probably not ready for an EV yet (or the right one hasn't come out)

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The EQS, EQE, Lyriq, and Lucid would actually get you 5 hours of driving without stopping

 

Don’t want an EQS or EQE either, Lucid scares me because of the unforeseens of the brand. Lyriq has potential, haven’t driven it yet.

But an EQS isn’t going to get me where I’m going with any range left driving how I drive, and the point is I don’t want to compromise that. And there is no easy way to charge it there. I leave it at a 50kw charger in town, or charge it for days at my cousins house.

 

Got it. You'll just have to wait for Toyota's 700 mile range SSB pack with 10 minutes charging 🤣

 

No, what I need are more chargers so that the car I choose isn’t dependent on the charger availability. My issue is the trip I take 4 times a year in my car gives me only the option of 4 chargers in one location to charge, and that’s it. 4 charger bays along 280 miles of road. That’s just not going to work.

So I guess for me the answer is not "range" its "variety of chargers available". I want to be able to decide between multiple charger options on my trip so I'm not beholden to 4 charger slots. Imagine you pull up and theres a 10 car deep line...you're there for hours and theres no other option. The non Tesla options you mention don't improve that

 

You have 2 options:
1) Get a rental car for that trip 4x/year or drive the Pacifica on that trip
2) Wait a couple years until charging network gets built out in that area

There's no way I'd even consider taking an EV on a trip like that. I assume it's a more remote area (I think you go to WV?)

 

I was kidding . I totally get it. One of the reasons I bought the Y was because of robust Tesla charging infrastructure in California. Plenty of working chargers, they are fully maintained and run at peak. I'm in and out in 12 to 15 minutes. And when I reach my brothers house, there are chargers literally half a mile from his house.

Around 2024, 2025 things should start getting better as other automakers add the NACS connector so you can charge at Tesla chargers. I don't know about other places, but here in California I'm seeing Tesla continually expanding their charging infrastructure

 

IMO if you need charging outside of your home, EVs are not a good option as of now. Speaking of EVs, Lyriq does look nice from the behind. Not a fan of the front and have no idea about inside and how it drives.

 

That's only true if you don't own a Tesla and live or travel to an area that's not EV friendly

 

Only would need charging outside my home on this one trip I take 3-4 times a year.

 

If you go by yourself, sure. Not convenient but not bad. Even if I had a tesla, I wouldn't take it on trips as of now. I want to be able to stop and get quick food where I want. Sitting somewhere for almost half an hour at best is not something I look forwards to on trips.
If someone enjoys other features, sure be it. Tesla or not, EV friendly or not... IMO the below is not appealing/convenient at all. But I know a family like you. They take their Y everywhere.

... Model Y can be charged up to a range of 3 miles per hour with NEMA 5-15 chargers, while it can be fully charged in 11 to 12 hours using NEMA 14-50 chargers and 7 to 8 hours by a wall connector. The Supercharger charges the vehicle in 25 minutes.

 

I agree. The question for me is the incredible feel of that i7 in 95% of my normal driving worth the admitted non ideal nature of driving in on a trip which amounts to perhaps 5% of my driving? I honestly am not sure what the answer to that question is.

The Lucid I drove I would say no, it didnt wow me that way...but the i7....

 

You never have to spend 25 minutes at a Tesla fast charger while travelling, at least travelling here in California. The mapping software will have you charge so you reach your destination quickly. As I've stated in previous posts, when I travel 380 miles to my brothers house, it's two stops....one 12 minute and one 15 minute. I usually reach my brothers house with about 18 percent state of charge. Usually the next morning I will take it to the Tesla superchargers half mile from his house and charge to 80 percent, which usually takes about 20 minutes on a 250 kW charger. Keep in mind, I only use fast chargers while travelling. In town, I've never used one

 

I'm just going to go out on a limb and say that if you were to get an i7, any "inconvenience" you thought you would not be able to deal with will dissolve away. You will never go back. I'll put that in writing. Oh, never mind

 

I would agree until I'm stuck in Staunton for 2 hours trying to charge...

 

I once got stuck in Bakersfield, CA in 100 F plus weather, more than 200 miles from my destination due to 3 out 4 Electrify America chargers being down (I was driving the Polestar), turning a 7 hour trip into a 10 hour trip, and yet even with that experience I would never go back. It never happened again, but driving a non Tesla, it's always a possibility it can happen again. There are numerous EV owners who faced this one time or another, yet they would also tell you they would never go back regardless