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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 350forMe
ready to purchase on a group by when is it available! got my finger on the "ADD to cart" button.

Any trusted shops in Southern Cali, can install these? let me know, thanks
talk to them they have some recommended installers here in cali. just need the price to be right and im all in as well.
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 10:39 AM
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Count me in....... Let me know whats up...

Is that a bolt on X-Pipe or what?

If not what exhaust is it?
Are you asking about my current exhaust?
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 07:46 PM
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I just want to say that I own a PPE race header for my SCed Celica GTS and I love it. I still havnt dynoed and tuned for it but the gains on the header have been proven by many customer dynoes. Even though its for another vehicle, you can see the workmanship of there header. The inside of the collector side and runners look great. I have had it for about over a year along with their midpipe with no issues whatsoever....
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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Any results or dyno for under 4000rpm?
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 2slow
Any results or dyno for under 4000rpm?
All the AZ Lexus owners are trying to get together for a dyno day soon. When that happens I will post my graph and try to include 0 - 7k
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by AZ JB
All the AZ Lexus owners are trying to get together for a dyno day soon. When that happens I will post my graph and try to include 0 - 7k
If you use 4th gear in ECT-Snow mode, then the lowest RPM you would be able to go WOT would be about 2500 RPMs without it downshifting to 3rd.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 07:31 AM
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I'm still confused on how dynoing our car in snow mode gives an accurate reading
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by iSuxeL
I'm still confused on how dynoing our car in snow mode gives an accurate reading
Snow mode makes the car seem slower since the transmission behavior and throttle sensitivity is different, but it does NOT reduce power at WOT. If you manually select 4th gear, then get up to a speed on the dyno that it changes to 4th gear, you can go full throttle at ~2500 RPMs, and it won't downshift. I have proven this via CAN bus, accelleration plots, and dyno tests. Any person who dyno's in PWR mode, is doing it wrong.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Gernby
If you use 4th gear in ECT-Snow mode, then the lowest RPM you would be able to go WOT would be about 2500 RPMs without it downshifting to 3rd.
Sorry, that's what I meant.
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Originally Posted by iSuxeL
I'm still confused on how dynoing our car in snow mode gives an accurate reading
Uh, what? Snow mode keeps it from downshifting, which is what gives a most definite inaccurate reading. Not sure what you're getting at.
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by four o two
Uh, what? Snow mode keeps it from downshifting, which is what gives a most definite inaccurate reading. Not sure what you're getting at.
It looked like an honest question to me. I'm not sure he was suggesting anything.

Which leads me to again criticize the misnomer that is the "power" mode switch, though...just a bit misleading.

Originally Posted by ahnjae
I just want to say that I own a PPE race header for my SCed Celica GTS and I love it.
Yeah, PPE has made headers for the Lotus guys, as they run the ZZ motors, too. From what I've read, they like their products as well.
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by four o two
Uh, what? Snow mode keeps it from downshifting, which is what gives a most definite inaccurate reading. Not sure what you're getting at.
Can you elaborate on your response. Sorry, not following you..

My understanding is to dyno in snow mode so you can floor it sooner and not worry about a downshift. I guess once you hit ~5500RPMs you could switch snow off. Not sure it will make much difference though.
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by AZ JB
Can you elaborate on your response. Sorry, not following you..

My understanding is to dyno in snow mode so you can floor it sooner and not worry about a downshift. I guess once you hit ~5500RPMs you could switch snow off. Not sure it will make much difference though.

That's what he's saying.

A downshift will give you an inaccurate dnyo, hence you should use snow mode to avoid that happening.

There's no reason at all to turn snow mode off, it has no impact on the amount of power the engine is producing.
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by AZ JB
Can you elaborate on your response. Sorry, not following you..

My understanding is to dyno in snow mode so you can floor it sooner and not worry about a downshift. I guess once you hit ~5500RPMs you could switch snow off. Not sure it will make much difference though.
I'm not sure what you're wanting me to elaborate on man. Dynos need a 1:1 ratio gear to get an honest reading. If you're pulling the rollers and then all of a sudden downshift, increasing your tires' rotation speed, you're going to throw the numbers way off. They'll read higher than what they're supposed to. I'm not going to waste time getting into the physics of it, but that's the way it is. Here, take this dumbass for example: he posts a vid of his 350 with Legalis R exhaust and a JoeZ intake claiming 303rwhp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmAvQuWEnSc

Totally off considering an intake, exhaust and PPE headers car made 281rwhp.
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by four o two
I'm not sure what you're wanting me to elaborate on man. Dynos need a 1:1 ratio gear to get an honest reading. If you're pulling the rollers and then all of a sudden downshift, increasing your tires' rotation speed, you're going to throw the numbers way off. They'll read higher than what they're supposed to. I'm not going to waste time getting into the physics of it, but that's the way it is. Here, take this dumbass for example: he posts a vid of his 350 with Legalis R exhaust and a JoeZ intake claiming 303rwhp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmAvQuWEnSc

Totally off considering an intake, exhaust and PPE headers car made 281rwhp.

You don't have to have a 1:1 ratio for valid dyno results, but anything above or below that will show slightly more drivetrain loss. The dyno adjusts the power numbers based on calculated gearing from the wheel speed and engine RPM.
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