The dB is supposed to signify low noise LOL. Glad to hear your happy with the wheels though.
new guy. 16" vs 17"
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new guy. 16" vs 17"
Hello everyone--first post. I have bought a 98 GS400 (my second GS) with the 16" OEMs. I like the 17" OEMs alot and intend to get them. However, my tire guy is warning me that my ride will suffer with the 17s and that I should stick to my 16s. I have mid life Michelin Pilot HXs that are very harsh and loud over any irregularity in the road. I would also like flatter cornering --a friends '01GS3 feels flatter in turns. So my questions are:
1. How will ride quality differ with the 17s?
2. Will 17s improve handling/cornering?
3. Are reproduction wheels ie. AAA online--OK or should I stick to factory wheels?
I've ordered Daizen sway bar bushings so flatter cornering is in my future one way or another I assume.
Thanks for any feedback.
1. How will ride quality differ with the 17s?
2. Will 17s improve handling/cornering?
3. Are reproduction wheels ie. AAA online--OK or should I stick to factory wheels?
I've ordered Daizen sway bar bushings so flatter cornering is in my future one way or another I assume.
Thanks for any feedback.
the 17 will suffer a bit but not dramatic imho. i never tried riding in 16, but with my stock 17 the ride is still very good.
yes, the 17 has lower profil tires so it will help handling definitely, how much that's naother factor.
depends on whether you want factory look oem wheels or aftermarket though. if oem look, i would just get oem rims
and yes, the daizen sways will amazes you
yes, the 17 has lower profil tires so it will help handling definitely, how much that's naother factor.
depends on whether you want factory look oem wheels or aftermarket though. if oem look, i would just get oem rims
and yes, the daizen sways will amazes you
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Re: new guy. 16" vs 17"
You should not notice much difference in ride between the 16" and 17". but with cornering it depends on the tire a performance tire will give you getter handling due to stiffer side walls but may also give a little harsher ride.
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Re: new guy. 16" vs 17"
Originally posted by silky
Hello everyone--first post. I have bought a 98 GS400 (my second GS) with the 16" OEMs. I like the 17" OEMs alot and intend to get them. However, my tire guy is warning me that my ride will suffer with the 17s and that I should stick to my 16s. I have mid life Michelin Pilot HXs that are very harsh and loud over any irregularity in the road. I would also like flatter cornering --a friends '01GS3 feels flatter in turns. So my questions are:
1. How will ride quality differ with the 17s?
2. Will 17s improve handling/cornering?
3. Are reproduction wheels ie. AAA online--OK or should I stick to factory wheels?
I've ordered Daizen sway bar bushings so flatter cornering is in my future one way or another I assume.
Thanks for any feedback.
Hello everyone--first post. I have bought a 98 GS400 (my second GS) with the 16" OEMs. I like the 17" OEMs alot and intend to get them. However, my tire guy is warning me that my ride will suffer with the 17s and that I should stick to my 16s. I have mid life Michelin Pilot HXs that are very harsh and loud over any irregularity in the road. I would also like flatter cornering --a friends '01GS3 feels flatter in turns. So my questions are:
1. How will ride quality differ with the 17s?
2. Will 17s improve handling/cornering?
3. Are reproduction wheels ie. AAA online--OK or should I stick to factory wheels?
I've ordered Daizen sway bar bushings so flatter cornering is in my future one way or another I assume.
Thanks for any feedback.
I did exactly what you're looking to do... I had 16" wheels on my 98 GS400 for about 6 months before I put a set of OEM 17"s on them.
1) Ride is a little harsher, but not nearly so much to be uncomfortable. You will feel the road surface more and be more prone to trammelling (following grooves in the road). Also be aware that the 17" wheels will cause your GS to run through tires much more quickly, partially due to the tires you will likely run on them (more performance oriented). Most get about 15 - 17K out of their 17" tires on average, but some eat them at 10K.
2) Handling is very much improved. Cornering feels much tigher, road feel is improved. Simply more planted, with less roll and flex in the sidewall. Don't go cheap on your tires, get something like a Bridgestone S-03 or Toyo T1.
3) I replaced rims (spare) with a AAA rim and also used it on the car. Had absolutely no issue with them, great service. Could not tell the difference between the AAA and OEM wheels. If you can get them cheaper than a used quality set of factory wheels, do it.
Good luck!
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plus, think of it this way,
WIDER=better traction.
u can go up to 245-255 on stock rear tires, much better than 225's.
yes, either go with Mich pilot sport, or PZero's or S-03's,
i have the pilot sport 245/45/17, really nice but i would do S0-3's next time, best tire money can buy
WIDER=better traction.
u can go up to 245-255 on stock rear tires, much better than 225's.
yes, either go with Mich pilot sport, or PZero's or S-03's,
i have the pilot sport 245/45/17, really nice but i would do S0-3's next time, best tire money can buy
Re: new guy. 16" vs 17"
Originally posted by silky
Hello everyone--first post. I have bought a 98 GS400 (my second GS) with the 16" OEMs. I like the 17" OEMs alot and intend to get them. However, my tire guy is warning me that my ride will suffer with the 17s and that I should stick to my 16s. I have mid life Michelin Pilot HXs that are very harsh and loud over any irregularity in the road. I would also like flatter cornering --a friends '01GS3 feels flatter in turns. So my questions are:
1. How will ride quality differ with the 17s?
2. Will 17s improve handling/cornering?
3. Are reproduction wheels ie. AAA online--OK or should I stick to factory wheels?
I've ordered Daizen sway bar bushings so flatter cornering is in my future one way or another I assume.
Thanks for any feedback.
Hello everyone--first post. I have bought a 98 GS400 (my second GS) with the 16" OEMs. I like the 17" OEMs alot and intend to get them. However, my tire guy is warning me that my ride will suffer with the 17s and that I should stick to my 16s. I have mid life Michelin Pilot HXs that are very harsh and loud over any irregularity in the road. I would also like flatter cornering --a friends '01GS3 feels flatter in turns. So my questions are:
1. How will ride quality differ with the 17s?
2. Will 17s improve handling/cornering?
3. Are reproduction wheels ie. AAA online--OK or should I stick to factory wheels?
I've ordered Daizen sway bar bushings so flatter cornering is in my future one way or another I assume.
Thanks for any feedback.
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Re: Re: new guy. 16" vs 17"
Originally posted by Blanco
I went from stock 16" to 18" on my 98 GS4. Ride quailty wasn't nearly as compromised as I had imagined. With the 16s I felt like I was "flying low to the ground, but not actually on it" when on the highway. Now with the 18s. It feels like I'm on the road, but the ride is still VERY smooth. I too had pilot HXs on my 16s. I didn't think they were bad, but the yoko AVS dBs on the 18s are ATROCIOUS!!! Loudest damn tires I've ever heard!!! But I must admit the car, even on stock suspension, handles a LOT better. Corners feel much flatter. Car still leans a tad when pushing it, but tires don't feel like they're gonna give out like the 16s would. Hope this helps. Go with the bigger rims, you won't be sorry. Just get a QUALITY tire!!! I plan on replacing my dBs with Pilot Sport A/Ss when they wear out.
I went from stock 16" to 18" on my 98 GS4. Ride quailty wasn't nearly as compromised as I had imagined. With the 16s I felt like I was "flying low to the ground, but not actually on it" when on the highway. Now with the 18s. It feels like I'm on the road, but the ride is still VERY smooth. I too had pilot HXs on my 16s. I didn't think they were bad, but the yoko AVS dBs on the 18s are ATROCIOUS!!! Loudest damn tires I've ever heard!!! But I must admit the car, even on stock suspension, handles a LOT better. Corners feel much flatter. Car still leans a tad when pushing it, but tires don't feel like they're gonna give out like the 16s would. Hope this helps. Go with the bigger rims, you won't be sorry. Just get a QUALITY tire!!! I plan on replacing my dBs with Pilot Sport A/Ss when they wear out.
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The Tirerack surveys on the SumitomoHTR+ indicate that it is a very quiet and smooth tire--especially in a 17". My OEM 17s are on the way and I intend to try the Sumis--their cost is very reasonable.
Originally posted by silky
The Tirerack surveys on the SumitomoHTR+ indicate that it is a very quiet and smooth tire--especially in a 17". My OEM 17s are on the way and I intend to try the Sumis--their cost is very reasonable.
The Tirerack surveys on the SumitomoHTR+ indicate that it is a very quiet and smooth tire--especially in a 17". My OEM 17s are on the way and I intend to try the Sumis--their cost is very reasonable.
Jeff,
The wheels are AWESOME!!! Thanks for pulling through for me!!
Originally posted by silky
The Tirerack surveys on the SumitomoHTR+ indicate that it is a very quiet and smooth tire--especially in a 17". My OEM 17s are on the way and I intend to try the Sumis--their cost is very reasonable.
The Tirerack surveys on the SumitomoHTR+ indicate that it is a very quiet and smooth tire--especially in a 17". My OEM 17s are on the way and I intend to try the Sumis--their cost is very reasonable.
Jeff,
The wheels are AWESOME!!! Thanks for pulling through for me!!
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How about the Yoko AVS ES100? Any good? They surveyed reasonably high. I don't have the rims yet but I was thinking OEM 17's for the S.F. potholes or AT Italia Rims in 18's if I am going forgot about the potholes.
Last edited by meanboy; Jan 12, 2003 at 05:33 AM.
Originally posted by meanboy
How about the Yoko AVS ES100? Any good? They surveyed reasonably high. I don't have the rims yet but I was thinking OEM 17's for the S.F. potholes or AT Italia Rims in 18's if I am going forgot about the potholes.
How about the Yoko AVS ES100? Any good? They surveyed reasonably high. I don't have the rims yet but I was thinking OEM 17's for the S.F. potholes or AT Italia Rims in 18's if I am going forgot about the potholes.
Personally, I like being different than every other stock wheeled GS4 out there. But to each his own. The looks and compliments I've gotten on the Rivas definitely tell me I made the right choice.
As far as the ES100s go. I don't anything about them. But I do know this. It's worth it to spend a few extra bucks up front to get the good stuff and be happy. Than save a few and be dissatisfied for months and months.
