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Old Jan 16, 2018 | 07:28 AM
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the 2022 Avalon refresh just leaked....
at first i couldn't even tell what you changed.
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Old Jan 16, 2018 | 07:54 AM
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I agree it's terrible, but the current Avalon and ES share nothing about the grill so I don't think this new Avalon grill is any indication for the next gen ES styling.
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Old Jan 16, 2018 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by pman6
the 2022 Avalon refresh just leaked....

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Old Jan 16, 2018 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SNiiP3R
Toyota is trying to make a family sedan look like the Lamborghini, that will never work.
They are trying to make a family sedan look like a military jeep.
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Old Jan 16, 2018 | 10:36 AM
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Having a night to digest it, the lux model grill is not as polarizing as it was yesterday. The touring model is the most offensive and Im not sure if it can ever be accepted.
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Old Jan 16, 2018 | 10:44 AM
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Guys, please tell me this is a joke??? I really cant believe Toyota went to production with that grill in the youtube video.....
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Old Jan 16, 2018 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
nice pic from toyota on fb

Horizontal grill looks a lot better(relatively lol) ......
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Old Jan 16, 2018 | 11:44 AM
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Looks like a simple continuation of the "gaping maw" spindle grills that have taken over all Lexus front ends since 2013. They are obviously very polarizing, and I believe they are an attempt to lure a younger audience to Lexus (and Toyota). I agree the new grills look hideous, like something a 9-year old would draw as the "perfect cool car." Unless the company changes direction suddenly, I would think the redesigned 2019 ES would sport an even more enormous grill...
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Old Jan 16, 2018 | 12:48 PM
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omg, wtf, wth, The Predator in the 1987 movie actually looked better than this joke!
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Old Jan 16, 2018 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
nice pic from toyota on fb

Kissing cousins....strangely, I think the styling on Avalon and Camry should of been reversed. Camry seems more sedate... :X



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Old Jan 16, 2018 | 01:44 PM
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Here's a rendering and a spy shot of the '19 ES if you haven't seen it yet.


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Old Jan 16, 2018 | 01:53 PM
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Hopefully the production model will be at the New York auto show in April... I'll take a lot of photos...
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Old Jan 16, 2018 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ST430
Kissing cousins....strangely, I think the styling on Avalon and Camry should of been reversed. Camry seems more sedate... :X



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I prefer the sport fascia on the Camry to the Lux fascia (above), but I like the lux fascia on the Avalon over the Sport.
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Old Jan 16, 2018 | 04:51 PM
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Looks like a baby LS. That's a good thing, in my book. The new LS looks decent in pictures but it's absolutely stunning in real life.
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Old Jan 16, 2018 | 07:04 PM
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I like the interior ski slope, but that front... it's a front only a mother could love. lol
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