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My '02 SC430 (with only 29,900 miles) has its CEL on. Code read was P0155: "Oxygen Sensor Heater Circuit - Bank 2, Sensor 1". Was told this is passenger side and before the CAT. Local shop wants $318 to replace the one sensor but is recommending replacement of both front sensors together. Curious as to how serious this is (heater failure vs. sensor failure?), plus does the price seem reasonable for a single replacement? Also, what's the general opinion on doing a preventative double replacement when only one is coding as bad? Thanks!
My '02 SC430 (with only 29,900 miles) has its CEL on. Code read was P0155: "Oxygen Sensor Heater Circuit - Bank 2, Sensor 1". Was told this is passenger side and before the CAT. Local shop wants $318 to replace the one sensor but is recommending replacement of both front sensors together. Curious as to how serious this is (heater failure vs. sensor failure?), plus does the price seem reasonable for a single replacement? Also, what's the general opinion on doing a preventative double replacement when only one is coding as bad? Thanks!
First of all Welcome to Club Lexus!!!
very low miles for this failure but it certainly could happen.
When did this happen?
have you had any maintenance lately?
that is really expensive and I would ask them if all of the connectors are okay.
My '02 SC430 (with only 29,900 miles) has its CEL on. Code read was P0155: "Oxygen Sensor Heater Circuit - Bank 2, Sensor 1". Was told this is passenger side and before the CAT. Local shop wants $318 to replace the one sensor but is recommending replacement of both front sensors together. Curious as to how serious this is (heater failure vs. sensor failure?), plus does the price seem reasonable for a single replacement? Also, what's the general opinion on doing a preventative double replacement when only one is coding as bad? Thanks!
Bank 2 sensor 1 is the upstream sensor on the passenger side. The sensor can be had for $55.08 from Amazon. I just had this one done and it cost me $63.00 for the labor. You do the math. See included link. You do not need to have them done in pairs. There is no evidence that they fail near the same time.
By the way, I drove mine for a month with the CEL on and had no problems at all. Gas mileage stayed the same. It is not an emergency.
@Bgw70 and iolmaster: first, thanks for the welcome. This forum is an amazing resource for this first-time Lexus owner!
Bgw70: the CEL came on two weeks ago. No maintenance of any type done on the vehicle. OBD reader showed three distinct triggers of the code. Will check with the shop (might be a different shop!) re a possible connector problem per your advice.
iolmaster: good info....thanks. Interestingly, the written quote I got for the repair shows the part price (Denso #234-4138....different from the one you referenced at Amazon) at $161.52 plus $107.97 for labor. Plus a mysterious "Enviro/Suply" surcharge of $26.95 and the tax of course. Found that exact part at Wal-Mart for $52.67 and even cheaper elsewhere. Glad I checked here first.
4138 is upstream driver's side not passenger. It is $46.78 on Amazon. The only difference in all four of the sensors is the length of the cable.
WOW.....good catch!! Code readout definitely referred to passenger side. Thank you again!
Just f.y.i., another shop quoted me $275-$300 for the job.........UNLESS they have to drill the old one out which would add $350 to the tab for manifold removal. Suddenly I'm living in Ripoff City. OUCH! :-)
WOW.....good catch!! Code readout definitely referred to passenger side. Thank you again!
Just f.y.i., another shop quoted me $275-$300 for the job.........UNLESS they have to drill the old one out which would add $350 to the tab for manifold removal. Suddenly I'm living in Ripoff City. OUCH! :-)
I have done a number of these myself in the past and I have never had to drill one out. I have had a couple be pretty tight coming out. I went to NC State. Where is Ripoff City?
I have done a number of these myself in the past and I have never had to drill one out. I have had a couple be pretty tight coming out. I went to NC State. Where is Ripoff City?
Apparently, Ripoff City is right here in good ol' Carrboro. I'm fairly new to the area and also a Nittany Lion grad (many moons ago!). Also was a fellow Virginian for many years (Reston).
If space is tight, and you need to fit a longer bar. You get out your crowfoot line socket.
Ive had Fanagle around like this, but never come close to having to drill one out. In fact, I've never heard of someone having to.
talk to people around you and find a good independent tech to take it to.
Apparently, Ripoff City is right here in good ol' Carrboro. I'm fairly new to the area and also a Nittany Lion grad (many moons ago!). Also was a fellow Virginian for many years (Reston).
I grew up in PA and almost went to Penn State and Reston ain't really Virginia. Not anymore anyway. Stay away from the Tarheels!
4138 is upstream driver's side not passenger. It is $46.78 on Amazon. The only difference in all four of the sensors is the length of the cable.
in the first post he said P0155, which should be B2S1.
Anyway, if it is B2S1, it should not be that difficult to change and a shop should only charge you about $80 or less for labor.
Also, find a shop that will let you supply the part.
look for an independent shop.
in the first post he said P0155, which should be B2S1.
Anyway, if it is B2S1, it should not be that difficult to change and a shop should only charge you about $80 or less for labor.
Also, find a shop that will let you supply the part.
look for an independent shop.
Bgw70, thanks for the info and the video. The code does show B2S1, so I'm thinking that the shop put the wrong part # on the written estimate (driver's side instead of passenger side). But wanting $161 for a part available everywhere for about 50 bucks is nuts (and labor is $108). Definitely will look for someone that'll let me supply it.
Dumb question: since the code is for sensor heater malfunction and not the sensor itself, would it be accurate to say that it's only a problem during warmup until the sensor reaches full operating temp? Just curious.
Bgw70, thanks for the info and the video. The code does show B2S1, so I'm thinking that the shop put the wrong part # on the written estimate (driver's side instead of passenger side). But wanting $161 for a part available everywhere for about 50 bucks is nuts (and labor is $108). Definitely will look for someone that'll let me supply it.
Dumb question: since the code is for sensor heater malfunction and not the sensor itself, would it be accurate to say that it's only a problem during warmup until the sensor reaches full operating temp? Just curious.
Your last paragraph may in fact be true. I am not sure. However, the CEL will remain on as long as this code is present. As I said, I drove mine for about a month with the same DTC without any adverse effects.
Lexus wants $236.00 for the part. The parts I have quoted are Denso parts. The exact same part that is in the Toyota box and the exact same part that was taken out of my car when I had it changed. The local stores such as Advance have the Bosch part for about $180.00. It always amazes me the markup in parts. This is why is getting harder and harder to find a shop that will allow you to supply your own part.
Your last paragraph may in fact be true. I am not sure. However, the CEL will remain on as long as this code is present. As I said, I drove mine for about a month with the same DTC without any adverse effects.
Lexus wants $236.00 for the part. The parts I have quoted are Denso parts. The exact same part that is in the Toyota box and the exact same part that was taken out of my car when I had it changed. The local stores such as Advance have the Bosch part for about $180.00. It always amazes me the markup in parts. This is why is getting harder and harder to find a shop that will allow you to supply your own part.
Agree about the crazy markups. And the $161 part quoted on the estimate is a Denso part #. That's more than triple the price over what's available in stores. YIKES! This forum is sure worth the price of admission... :-)
O2 Sensor Code P0155 question
