Remote Start subscription?
Rookie
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 44
Likes: 6
From: OH
Yeah, the subscription thing for remote start sucks. Try this instead…
To start it, you click the remote lock button twice, and then click the lock button down a third time hold it down for about 10 seconds and the vehicle will start up.
To start it, you click the remote lock button twice, and then click the lock button down a third time hold it down for about 10 seconds and the vehicle will start up.
Lead Lap
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 4,297
Likes: 1,225
From: IL
repost:
The 2018 (except GX) and 2019 (all models) are the sweet spot in the Lexus Enform saga.
These have 120 months - 10 years of the Safety Connect and enabled fob remote start.
The phone app had a 12 month - 1 year trial and is $80/year for the find/follow/monitor/Remote Start.
2020 and newer Lexi have the 36 month - 3 year trial for everything, phone app, fob RS, Dynamic Voice
and Dynamic Navigation on those with Nav. When subscribing after the trial it is $80/year for the Safety
Connect and an additional $80/year for the phone And fob RS.
The 2018 (except GX) and 2019 (all models) are the sweet spot in the Lexus Enform saga.
These have 120 months - 10 years of the Safety Connect and enabled fob remote start.
The phone app had a 12 month - 1 year trial and is $80/year for the find/follow/monitor/Remote Start.
2020 and newer Lexi have the 36 month - 3 year trial for everything, phone app, fob RS, Dynamic Voice
and Dynamic Navigation on those with Nav. When subscribing after the trial it is $80/year for the Safety
Connect and an additional $80/year for the phone And fob RS.
8th Gear
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 8
Likes: 2
From: bc
paying for an app for a car i've already paid for
I've spent approximately 70K for an 2020 RX350 (2nd one) and have been a 3 time Lexus owner of 3 brand new cars and the app on my phone won't work unless i pay $10 per month .... what a cheap thing to do! anyone else feel this way?
Instructor
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 856
Likes: 326
From: Illinois
The way of the world - nickel and dime us to death.. We have a brand new NX350 and because we opted for the smaller in dash screen we are expected to pay for navigation. Considering how crappy the Lexus navigation system is, there's no way in hell I'm paying for it. Eventually they think we'll pay for two other subscriptions but except for whichever scheme it is that give my wife remote start that ain't happening either.
8th Gear
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 8
Likes: 2
From: bc
Advanced
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 585
Likes: 89
From: NJ
Lexus provides a 3 year subscription to the remote services when purchased new. If your dealer didn't tell you shame on him. I pay the $80 per year for the service that provides remote start, lock and unlock. None of the other "apps" are of any use to me. Nothing in life is "free".
Advanced
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 585
Likes: 89
From: NJ
I live in the No. East and My RX sits in the driveway. If I know it is going to snow I set the defroster on and raise the temperature all the way up. After the snow I remote start the car either once or twice and I don't have to clear the windows. I do the opposite during the summer in real hot weather. Well worth it to me. $80 is not going to break me.
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Pole Position
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 2,895
Likes: 838
From: Idaho
I pay the fee but I’m not thrilled about it. I’m not going to defend auto manufacturers (which all have the same challenge by the way) but there is a recurring cost associated with the provision of these services. The services require a cellular data connection, or access to map data in the case of nav. But many people don’t want these services, so they don’t want to pay for them. If a manufacturer raises the MSRP in order to bake these costs into the purchase price, then everyone pays for them. Which methodology is really the best? Now I don’t imagine for a moment that the manufacturer doesn’t tack on some profit margin to these fees, but I doubt it is that much considering the fees are relatively low.
Lexus Test Driver
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 9,582
Likes: 3,407
From: NJ
I believe its included for the first three years. The length of various subscriptions varies with model years so I'm not certain about the duration for a 2022 MY vehicle. The keyfob can also be used to activate the remote start by pressing three times on the remote - holding for a few seconds on the third press. Obviously, you have to be in relatively short range for this to work. There is a fair bit of debate over whether this feature on the remote control continues if the subscription expires. I do not know the answer to this debate as I maintain my subscription. Sadly, most manufacturers today use subscriptions to pay for the overhead, like cellular connectivity, as well as pad their profits of course. I'm not sure you will find a new well-equipped vehicle today that doesn't have a subscription to maintain certain features.
Driver
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 77
Likes: 13
From: IN
The app also allows to remotely check if doors are locked/unlocked, if windows are closed, tire pressure, level of gas in the tank, etc.
If those features important to the driver, then subscription is needed.
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