I was wondering if anyone has done the conversion from the cartridge type oil filter to the more traditional spin on metal filter.

I know that some people have replaced the stock plastic cartridge cap with a Toyota/Lexus metal cartridge....many reports of the plastic ones breaking if over torqued during an oil change. That is not what I am asking about.

I am interested in the product from Baxter Industries that converts the system to the typical spin on filter vs the paper insert that we have to use. I do my own basic work and was wondering what the feedback on these might be. I know that the conversion is a couple of hundred bucks but it seems easier, faster and less mess.

https://baxterperformanceusa.com

Just curious if anyone has done this and what your feedback might be. thanks

 

While I definitely prefer the conventional spin on oil filter, $230 is ridiculous.
The cartridge filter can be a pain, but works fine. I have the Motive tool.
If there were a $50 solution, I might bite.

 

Yeah....was thinking the same. I have to Motive tool and drain which makes it easier. Just wondering if anyone here had tried it. I wonder why anyone would design this system over spin on filter...or get rid of transmission dipstick.

 

Toyota was on a move to reduce landfill, or something like that. It was not their best idea, IMO.

I would think that there would be other, cheaper options to the cannister setup.
What are ya gonna do?

 

Some have done so over on the Tacoma forums. Overall, they like it but also complain of the high cost.

Tacoma World

 

If I had a car with a cartridge filter I'd bite the bullet and convert. I loath the cartridge filter system.

 

I wouldn't spend $10 to do a conversion. It doesn't make any difference to me especially with the Motiv X filter wrench and the drain tool. In fact, oil changes on the Lexus Rx350 are easier (easy access to the filter) than almost every car I have previously owned including my 2008 Lexus Rx400h which had the undercarriage panel which was a nuisance.

 

Is this the one: Toyota 2.0L - 5.7L Oil Filter Wrench, Drain Tool, and Funnel Bundle - Motivx Tools ? Is the funnel worthwhile, or will the my ancient old-fashioned funnel be sufficient?

 

That funnel is nice; you can dump a 5 quart jug in very quickly. But a regular filter works as well.

 

The spin-on filters with the open facing up are among the messiest. When the filter is removed all the oil in the galleries above the filter comes rushing out - all over the filter and onto your hand. The ones at a 90-degree angle can be messy if you cant put anything right below the filter. The inverted spin-on filter in my 2nd gen Tacoma is set up nicely - the filter is up high, reachable from the top, and a cradle collects the oil rushing out of the filter and routes it into a tube where the oil can be collected in a water bottle sized container. The cartridge design is not messy if you do it right. I’ve lots of practice changing oil on our 07 ES350.

 

There was a time when people with canister oil filters bought a tool so they could puncture it to drain if of the oil before taking it off so there would be less mess.

Out canister type can make oil changes clean for DIYers doing it twice a year or so, although probably annoying to professional mechanics trying to rush things.

Just go to an O'reiley and cut yourself a foot of thick rubber hose with 5/8' inner diameter for about $2 and attached it to the filter plug drain tool that comes with every oil filter and take your time to let the oil drain. This DIY tool method makes jabbing in the drain tool fast and easy too.

 

Like this.

 

The Motiv drain tool is designed to do just this. You twist it on to drain the oil so it doesn't make a mess. It cost $59 with the filter wrench and the fill funnel. Not the cheapest device but the car cost $50k so it is irrelevant.

 

yeah the Motiv tool is nice, but It just takes too long twist/turn it in to attach it, twist in the bottom to initiate the draining, and then undoing both once your are done.

It's long tube can be handy depending on the positioning of your drain pan or where you drain to, but for me i would actually have to cut it, and it seems too pretty to cut....

It's so nice I'd have to clean it separately everything after an oil change.

 

It's an oil change people. It is supposed to be messy.
Unless, of course, you use your MityVac.
However, the cannister oil filter is a bone head design, which is why Toyletta went back to the conventional spin on.
All good.