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Old Feb 3, 2021 | 03:23 PM
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In December after a visit at gas station the check engine light was ON. Visited nearest O'Reilly store to read errors. Scanner showed P0441 (EVAP System Incorrect Purge Flow) and P1421 (EVAP Canister Gross Leak).
I bought a new gas cap (~$25) but it didn't help.
Then I visited the shop that specialized in Japanese cars and they found a broken EVAP hose (#3 on the image) - there was no vacuum in the system. Several days later I pulled hose #2 (without power) and it broke also (because of age), so I decided to replace all 3 hoses. I did it yesterday, errors were cleaned, check engine light is OFF now.

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In December after a visit at gas station the check engine light was ON. Visited nearest O'Reilly store to read errors. Scanner showed P0441 (EVAP System Incorrect Purge Flow) and P1421 (EVAP Canister Gross Leak).
I bought a new gas cap (~$25) but it didn't help.
Then I visited the shop that specialized in Japanese cars and they found a broken EVAP hose (#3 on the image) - there was no vacuum in the system. Several days later I pulled hose #2 (without power) and it broke also (because of age), so I decided to replace all 3 hoses. I did it yesterday, errors were cleaned, check engine light is OFF now.

Thank you for sharing your fix!

I got the P0441 code this week.
Cleared it but it came back as "pending".

Except for the EVAP VSV's mounted on the engine which were already replaced with new vacum lines too, I haven't dug into the EVAP system on this car much.
Fuel trims are good so not expecting a vacuum leak from intake.

>> I'm guessing this pic is for the components under the car near the gas tank so I might have to check it out.

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Old Feb 4, 2021 | 09:55 PM
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canister


pipe


This looks like fun.. lol
If I can do a physical inspection without removing the fuel tank I will take pics and share what I find.
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Old Feb 5, 2021 | 07:10 AM
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thanks for the info on this; now i know what to look towards if these codes every pop up on mine.
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Originally Posted by iMSQ
In December after a visit at gas station the check engine light was ON. Visited nearest O'Reilly store to read errors. Scanner showed P0441 (EVAP System Incorrect Purge Flow) and P1421 (EVAP Canister Gross Leak).
I bought a new gas cap (~$25) but it didn't help.
Then I visited the shop that specialized in Japanese cars and they found a broken EVAP hose (#3 on the image) - there was no vacuum in the system. Several days later I pulled hose #2 (without power) and it broke also (because of age), so I decided to replace all 3 hoses. I did it yesterday, errors were cleaned, check engine light is OFF now.
Where is this section of hose located in the engine bay or under the vehicle?
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under air filter box
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Old May 18, 2021 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by iMSQ

under air filter box
I pulled the air filter box and all those hoses along that metal rib look and feel fine. I felt along the length of each hose underneath, on top and on the sides,

no visible cracking anywhere and could not feel any cracks anywhere.
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Subscribed. lol
Waiting to see what other people find before digging in.

I have an annoying "small leak" evap code popping up randomly for a while now too and I haven't had the time or patience to deal with locating it and I have no smoke machine either so interested what other people find.

Just looking under the car the evap canister is not in a fun place- over the exhaust and behind a heat shield so rather not go there if I don;t have to and hoping the leak is somewhere else more accessible.
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I marked hose #1 from first post image

PS: I had a problem with #3 first (goes down between engine and cabin), and #2 cracked in my hand when I pulled it
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Originally Posted by iMSQ


I marked hose #1 from first post image

PS: I had a problem with #3 first (goes down between engine and cabin), and #2 cracked in my hand when I pulled it
So do we need to remove the black plastic rectangular-ish box above the air intake hose to get to number two and number three?
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A bit more digging, hoses look OK but they are hard. Lexus dealer wants $37 plus tax for those three hoses. Wondering if I can use bulk hose.



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1 and 2 are easy to check. What about #3?


PS: Green valve can be used to check if vacuum is in the system.
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Originally Posted by iMSQ
1 and 2 are easy to check. What about #3?


PS: Green valve can be used to check if vacuum is in the system.
Wasn’t able to get a visual on #3. Was thinking about trying a cigar smoke test.
I just went out to have another close look at that hose number three. how did you even get to it? I can’t even see the lower clamp point or how to get to it.

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Old May 19, 2021 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bcolins
.. how did you even get to it? I can’t even see the lower clamp point or how to get to it.
I did it at a shop. #3 is the most loaded in EVAP
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Then I visited the shop that specialized in Japanese cars and they found a broken EVAP hose (#3 on the image) - there was no vacuum in the system. Several days later I pulled hose #2 (without power) and it broke also (because of age), so I decided to replace all 3 hoses.
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