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The lighting was not as bright and did not have the range of a average XENON HID projector headlamp. Also the cutoff line wasn't as sharp.
The only thing LED have in their advantage is the design.
Also if manufactures are running a high current the LEDs need to be cooled somehow or they will melt.
Please don't use an Accord as the standard for LEDs. We are talking about luxury cars here. Does the Accord even offer LED headlights? I know LED DRL's are an option.Originally Posted by yowps3
I'm going by the Honda Accord LED headlamp experience ^^.The lighting was not as bright and did not have the range of a average XENON HID projector headlamp. Also the cutoff line wasn't as sharp.
The only thing LED have in their advantage is the design.
Also if manufactures are running a high current the LEDs need to be cooled somehow or they will melt.
Meh, back to the RC….
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is a turbo/supercharger almost a sure no in one of these cars within 1-2 years?
the 5.0L v8 was a monster in the isf. But the industry is now trending towards smaller efficient engines with turbos.
the 5.0L v8 was a monster in the isf. But the industry is now trending towards smaller efficient engines with turbos.
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Meh, back to the RC….
Yeah in Australia the Accord V6 comes with full LED headlamps and also LED DRLOriginally Posted by LexFather
Please don't use an Accord as the standard for LEDs. We are talking about luxury cars here. Does the Accord even offer LED headlights? I know LED DRL's are an option.Meh, back to the RC….

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the 5.0L v8 was a monster in the isf. But the industry is now trending towards smaller efficient engines with turbos.
There is nothing fuel efficient about a TT V6. Might as well get a V8 if it's available.Originally Posted by tigerstyle
is a turbo/supercharger almost a sure no in one of these cars within 1-2 years?the 5.0L v8 was a monster in the isf. But the industry is now trending towards smaller efficient engines with turbos.
If you really want a good MPG car look no further than the SOHC 1.8L Civic! Very good real world MPG with that car.
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If you really want a good MPG car look no further than the SOHC 1.8L Civic! Very good real world MPG with that car.
i'm talking more about horsepower to fuel consumption. Originally Posted by yowps3
There is nothing fuel efficient about a TT V6. Might as well get a V8 if it's available.If you really want a good MPG car look no further than the SOHC 1.8L Civic! Very good real world MPG with that car.
a turbo smaller v6 is no doubt more fuel efficient than the 10 year old 3.5L v6.
and a bigger turbo v6 is no doubt more fuel efficient than a 5.0 v8 at the same horsepower/torque.
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a turbo smaller v6 is no doubt more fuel efficient than the 10 year old 3.5L v6.
and a bigger turbo v6 is no doubt more fuel efficient than a 5.0 v8 at the same horsepower/torque.
EPA rated maybe. Real world, no. Turboed engine will likely to burn more fuel than 5.0 V8 if your right foot is heavy. Implementation of Cylinder deactivation on V8 "Like C7" will boost fuel efficiency on V8 much more than going to smaller engine.Originally Posted by tigerstyle
i'm talking more about horsepower to fuel consumption. a turbo smaller v6 is no doubt more fuel efficient than the 10 year old 3.5L v6.
and a bigger turbo v6 is no doubt more fuel efficient than a 5.0 v8 at the same horsepower/torque.
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a turbo smaller v6 is no doubt more fuel efficient than the 10 year old 3.5L v6.
and a bigger turbo v6 is no doubt more fuel efficient than a 5.0 v8 at the same horsepower/torque.
TT V6 are the biggest guzzlers around, believe me. These things suck gas like a jet. Originally Posted by tigerstyle
i'm talking more about horsepower to fuel consumption. a turbo smaller v6 is no doubt more fuel efficient than the 10 year old 3.5L v6.
and a bigger turbo v6 is no doubt more fuel efficient than a 5.0 v8 at the same horsepower/torque.
A 5.0L V8 can be pretty good on gas at light to moderate throttle. And at WOT they still drink less than a TT V6
This is why TT V6 always have their gears tuned to be on the highest ratio, stop start and other features to curb fuel consumption.
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Very true!Originally Posted by cino
EPA rated maybe. Real world, no. Turboed engine will likely to burn more fuel than 5.0 V8 if your right foot is heavy. Implementation of Cylinder deactivation on V8 "Like C7" will boost fuel efficiency on V8 much more than going to smaller engine.
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of course i'm talking real world where 90% of driving doesn't go past 4000 rpms.
lets not fool ourselves. going with a 5.0L v8 instead of a turbo v6 would be a bit old school... but reliability would be high because the design has been proven for so long.
the biggest knock against lexus is handling/driving feel. having a heavier v8 up front would not be a good first step in the right direction.
lets not fool ourselves. going with a 5.0L v8 instead of a turbo v6 would be a bit old school... but reliability would be high because the design has been proven for so long.
the biggest knock against lexus is handling/driving feel. having a heavier v8 up front would not be a good first step in the right direction.
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the RCF has been designed with a V8 in mind, hopefully. there is no excuse if this car comes out and its a nose heavy understeering pig...Originally Posted by tigerstyle
the biggest knock against lexus is handling/driving feel. having a heavier v8 up front would not be a good first step in the right direction.
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lets not fool ourselves. going with a 5.0L v8 instead of a turbo v6 would be a bit old school... but reliability would be high because the design has been proven for so long.
the biggest knock against lexus is handling/driving feel. having a heavier v8 up front would not be a good first step in the right direction.
Originally Posted by tigerstyle
of course i'm talking real world where 90% of driving doesn't go past 4000 rpms.lets not fool ourselves. going with a 5.0L v8 instead of a turbo v6 would be a bit old school... but reliability would be high because the design has been proven for so long.
the biggest knock against lexus is handling/driving feel. having a heavier v8 up front would not be a good first step in the right direction.
Considering that the latest generation of Lexus cars, specifically the 3IS and 4GS are the best handling sedans in their class, I'm going to give Lexus the benefit of the doubt in this case.
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lets not fool ourselves. going with a 5.0L v8 instead of a turbo v6 would be a bit old school... but reliability would be high because the design has been proven for so long.
the biggest knock against lexus is handling/driving feel. having a heavier v8 up front would not be a good first step in the right direction.
Heavier? Perhaps so. But a TT V6 with the two turbochargers, plumbing and the inter coolers is all extra added weight.Originally Posted by tigerstyle
of course i'm talking real world where 90% of driving doesn't go past 4000 rpms.lets not fool ourselves. going with a 5.0L v8 instead of a turbo v6 would be a bit old school... but reliability would be high because the design has been proven for so long.
the biggest knock against lexus is handling/driving feel. having a heavier v8 up front would not be a good first step in the right direction.
Toyota even claims that the new 2.0t 4-cyl is heavier than the 2.5L V6 in the IS250!
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Toyota even claims that the new 2.0t 4-cyl is heavier than the 2.5L V6 in the IS250!
Turbos V6 can be more powerful than V8. Originally Posted by yowps3
Heavier? Perhaps so. But a TT V6 with the two turbochargers, plumbing and the inter coolers is all extra added weight.Toyota even claims that the new 2.0t 4-cyl is heavier than the 2.5L V6 in the IS250!
But I agree that for the simplicity, linear power, no lags, better gas ...the Na V8 is better
That is why Toyota and Honda never really cared about going turbos.
The main points is that they want simplicity in maintenance and parts.
Also, TT v6 can only get so much more on after market boost....NA V8 gets waysss much much more with after market Turbo. No replacement for displacement
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So you have driven this Accord in Australia to give us all feedback on LED lights? Maybe I missed that you did drive it in Australia.Originally Posted by yowps3
Yeah in Australia the Accord V6 comes with full LED headlamps and also LED DRL