Finally made the damn install appointment!
01-07-09, 12:38 PM
#31
Thanks for the re-assurance guys. I am bringing the car back tonight. They mentioned that the header gaskets and resonator gaskets should be replaced. Unfortunately, they mentioned this to me about 1 hour before I picked the car up. They had the car for almost 3 days...had I would have know this earlier I would have just told them to order me new gaskets on the fly before they put everything back together. We shall see what happens...I'll keep you guys posted on my "saga." lol 
01-08-09, 08:28 AM
#32
Lexus Champion
There are also gaskets on the header outlets to the catalyst inlets. These are composite "O" ring type gaskets the should be replaced on install. Some get away without replacing them but it is recommended.
Here is a picture of the cat outlets to Y pipe inlets showing the "O" ring gasket. Pic is from the LS400 Y pipe but the intersection is the same.
Resonator gaskets are unusual to need replacing and I am unsure how much noise would be coming from them if they were bad.
01-08-09, 12:35 PM
#33
I supplied them with two "O" ring type gaskets for the end of the headers. The CL member that sold me the headers gave me two collector (?) gaskets (the gasket with the 4 ports for the header runners) which seemed rather new. The shop said they were in good condition so they re-used them and put the two brand new "O" ring gaskets on the other end. Those were the only gaskets I supplied. Perhaps I need others like where the Y pipe merges.
01-12-09, 08:43 AM
#35
It goes back tomorrow morning to get all new gaskets installed. It's strange but the exhaust leak sound is still there however the car "feels" faster now eventhough my Neo is still disconnected. Perhaps it took a while for the ECU to learn? I'm puzzled.
01-12-09, 01:51 PM
#36
Lexus Champion
01-13-09, 04:04 PM
#37
I was kinda thinking the same thing. When you pulled the piggyback at the car wash, then stock ecu saw all those changes, headers, intake, exhaust leak, plus taken in the a/f of the water in the air if you ran it thru the car wash also, the Stock ECU was mostly likely saying WTF !
01-14-09, 06:21 AM
#38
Got the car back last night. It is flat out awesome! It feels similar if not "slightly" quicker than before and I don't even have my Neo hooked up yet! These findings would make sense because my Neo yielded around 17whp on back to back dyno runs and I read in many places that these headers also yield around 17whp...so for now it's a wash. The car feels and sounds SO MUCH better now.
It wasn't just bad gaskets...there was also a huge crack in the driver side cat (the smaller ones closest to the engine). It was repairable so they welded the crap out of it.
I still can't believe how much of a night and day difference it is. I am very happy now. I just can't wait to throw that Neo back on and see some "real" gains. Thanks to all for all the help and assistance; it is MUCH appreciated as always.
I'll start a new dyno thread when I get it tuned...perhaps I'll be the first 2nd gen NA GS to hit 300whp...that's what I'm shooting for but I'll probably realistically see around 290-295whp; we'll see.
It wasn't just bad gaskets...there was also a huge crack in the driver side cat (the smaller ones closest to the engine). It was repairable so they welded the crap out of it.
I still can't believe how much of a night and day difference it is. I am very happy now. I just can't wait to throw that Neo back on and see some "real" gains. Thanks to all for all the help and assistance; it is MUCH appreciated as always.
I'll start a new dyno thread when I get it tuned...perhaps I'll be the first 2nd gen NA GS to hit 300whp...that's what I'm shooting for but I'll probably realistically see around 290-295whp; we'll see.
01-14-09, 09:09 AM
#39
Congrats, Rock-a-Lex! I'm happy for 'ya! You have the same setup I'm shooting for, and whenever I read your posts I get all excited 
Got the car back last night. It is flat out awesome! It feels similar if not "slightly" quicker than before and I don't even have my Neo hooked up yet! These findings would make sense because my Neo yielded around 17whp on back to back dyno runs and I read in many places that these headers also yield around 17whp...so for now it's a wash. The car feels and sounds SO MUCH better now.
It wasn't just bad gaskets...there was also a huge crack in the driver side cat (the smaller ones closest to the engine). It was repairable so they welded the crap out of it.
I still can't believe how much of a night and day difference it is. I am very happy now. I just can't wait to throw that Neo back on and see some "real" gains. Thanks to all for all the help and assistance; it is MUCH appreciated as always.
I'll start a new dyno thread when I get it tuned...perhaps I'll be the first 2nd gen NA GS to hit 300whp...that's what I'm shooting for but I'll probably realistically see around 290-295whp; we'll see.
It wasn't just bad gaskets...there was also a huge crack in the driver side cat (the smaller ones closest to the engine). It was repairable so they welded the crap out of it.
I still can't believe how much of a night and day difference it is. I am very happy now. I just can't wait to throw that Neo back on and see some "real" gains. Thanks to all for all the help and assistance; it is MUCH appreciated as always.
I'll start a new dyno thread when I get it tuned...perhaps I'll be the first 2nd gen NA GS to hit 300whp...that's what I'm shooting for but I'll probably realistically see around 290-295whp; we'll see.
01-14-09, 06:52 PM
#41
Because of this whole ordeal I think im gonna go buy the headers before the safc. I almost have enough saved up.
GL with your safc retune when do you think you will be doing that?
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01-15-09, 06:26 AM
#43
To be honest...still the same. I am done modding this particular car for power. I am going to make it the quickest it can be with what it currently has (i.e. getting running optimally with the tune). I am sure I will be more happy with it after the tune.
To make it "feel" faster I may do some weight reduction such as pick-up some lightweight 19's down the road and remove my box w/12" subs and replace with a single 12" or a single 10" in the factory location.
The only other power mods that are left that I can think of short of FI, nitrous and methanol injection is the valve body upgrade and perhaps a custom exhaust using an "x" pipe. However, people have mentioned that the car shifts a little too rugged with the VB upgrade and I have read too many mixed results with the "x" pipe such as a loss in low-end power; so I figured now is a good stopping point for me.
In the Spring I have a whole crap load of body components that is going on the car...front lip spoiler, rear bumper, side skirts, trunk lip spoiler and perhaps a roof spoiler. It will look totally different.
To make it "feel" faster I may do some weight reduction such as pick-up some lightweight 19's down the road and remove my box w/12" subs and replace with a single 12" or a single 10" in the factory location.
The only other power mods that are left that I can think of short of FI, nitrous and methanol injection is the valve body upgrade and perhaps a custom exhaust using an "x" pipe. However, people have mentioned that the car shifts a little too rugged with the VB upgrade and I have read too many mixed results with the "x" pipe such as a loss in low-end power; so I figured now is a good stopping point for me.
In the Spring I have a whole crap load of body components that is going on the car...front lip spoiler, rear bumper, side skirts, trunk lip spoiler and perhaps a roof spoiler. It will look totally different.
01-15-09, 06:29 AM
#44
Yea im doing a very similar setup too. This whole thread I have been so excited to see the results. When your car wasnt runing to good I was like O NOOO. I am very pleased to hear that its runing good and feeling strong. I cant wait to see results.
Because of this whole ordeal I think im gonna go buy the headers before the safc. I almost have enough saved up.
GL with your safc retune when do you think you will be doing that?
Because of this whole ordeal I think im gonna go buy the headers before the safc. I almost have enough saved up.
GL with your safc retune when do you think you will be doing that?
I'll start a new thread when the time comes. Thanks again to all my fellow CL members for the support...you guys are the BEST!
01-15-09, 07:03 AM
#45
Lexus Champion
I will call the shop within the next week or so and make an appointment...I have a lot of family events going on for the next 2 weeks so a dyno appointment will most likely be 1st week of february. I'll start a new thread when the time comes.
Thanks again to all my fellow CL members for the support...you guys are the BEST!
I'll start a new thread when the time comes. Thanks again to all my fellow CL members for the support...you guys are the BEST!
BTW, until I see clear evidence suggesting otherwise I still recommend the stock Y pipe for NA applications. There may be a replacement option Y pipe comming from S&S. If that actually proves to be a better part then it could change my position. This is not a put down for those that have had 2.25" duals with an X installed just a recommendation going forward. The goal MUST be to make a better DRIVING car which means better FEEL which means improving the torque curve.
Peak dyno numbers are one thing but if the car gets "softer" or looses low end response and power the result is not enjoyable.