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Old Aug 9, 2001 | 09:51 AM
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What is the difference between the V300 and the S300? Is it just the engine or are there other differences as well? How are they different from GS3?Will these models ever make it to the states?
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The 97.8+ Japanese Domestic Market Aristo comes in two models. The S300 is your run of the mill GS300 utilizing the naturally aspirated 2JZ-GTE w/ VVT-i and a 5-speed auto tranny. The V300 is equipped with a sequential twin ceramic turbo 2JZ-GTE w/ VVT-i and a 4-speed auto tranny. It is rated at 280ps at the flywheel. Just think of these two cars as four door MKIV Supras w/ higher response and more torque VVT-i. FYI, the Vertex edition package is an optional trim on both the cars with more amenities that we see more of on our US Lexus. i.e., leather, better sound system, the erar spoiler, 17in wheels, etc.

Since we already have the "S300" we don't have to worry about importing. On the other hand the V300 is unlikely going to make it to our shores. Toyota/Lexus has yet has need to certify the engine and comply with LEV compliance. However, with a budget of $15,000 you will be able to build one capable of pushing a reliable 400+ rwhp.

I hope this helps.


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Thanks V for the info. I was wondering what I could do to my car to replicate the V300--I dont have 15,000 in my budget! Are there factory parts available to transform my car, or will it take a major overhaul?

So the vertex just refers to some type of trim? Is the suspension beefed up in the V300?

I am planning a trip to Japan this fall and was interested in getting some JDM stuff for my car.
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Old Aug 10, 2001 | 01:12 AM
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Are you just talking about making your car LOOK like a V300 model? If so, don't go there...now if you're talking about getting your car to PERFORM like a V300, you can get into a turbo for around $5K plus install...or a supercharger.

Otherwise, the engine/tranny is COMPLETLEY different (you can't just "convert" your car that easily). Otherwise, a fully loaded GS300 (American) is, trim level wise, pretty much the same. It's the turbocharged engine and 4 speed tranny that make the real difference...
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Old Aug 10, 2001 | 07:32 AM
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well its not COMPLEATLY different, its just that most everything is reversed in japan in the engine bay, for example the battery is on the other side and the master brake cylinder is on the other side too, and the intake manifold and some of the head of a V300 is different, more like a supra except with VVT-i. But the block is the same as the GS3 engine. The transmission is compleatly different than the US spec version but that can be swapped wit ha custom driveshaft. Its all about the money, a bolt on custom turbo would be the best power/money. Good luck in everything and anything you choose.
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Originally posted by LexusRules
...the block is the same as the GS3 engine. The transmission is compleatly different than the US spec version but that can be swapped wit ha custom driveshaft. Its all about the money, a bolt on custom turbo would be the best power/money. Good luck in everything and anything you choose.
Actually the block's plumbing is slightly different. There are two additional drainage lines. You are half right about the driveshaft... you will have to make provisions in the stock driveshaft to accomodate the 4-speed tranny. I had to use the upper end from a Supra Twin Turbo. You can bolt on a custom turbo but you will have to be running low boost without the proper fuel management system. I recommend adding a fuel return line, getting colder spark plugs (7) and an ignition computer.
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Originally posted by LexusRules
well its not COMPLEATLY different, its just that most everything is reversed in japan in the engine bay, for example the battery is on the other side and the master brake cylinder is on the other side too, and the intake manifold and some of the head of a V300 is different, more like a supra except with VVT-i. But the block is the same as the GS3 engine. The transmission is compleatly different than the US spec version but that can be swapped wit ha custom driveshaft. Its all about the money, a bolt on custom turbo would be the best power/money. Good luck in everything and anything you choose.
After what you said it sounds even more COMPLETELY different

If I get forced induction most likely it's going to be bolt-on turbo not any swaps. I probably won't be able to use alot of parts designed for the GTE but it's cool.
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Originally posted by v300
2k1GS3,

The 97.8+ Japanese Domestic Market Aristo comes in two models. The S300 is your run of the mill GS300 utilizing the naturally aspirated 2JZ-GTE w/ VVT-i and a 5-speed auto tranny. The V300 is equipped with a sequential twin ceramic turbo 2JZ-GTE w/ VVT-i and a 4-speed auto tranny. It is rated at 280ps at the flywheel. Just think of these two cars as four door MKIV Supras w/ higher response and more torque VVT-i. FYI, the Vertex edition package is an optional trim on both the cars with more amenities that we see more of on our US Lexus. i.e., leather, better sound system, the erar spoiler, 17in wheels, etc.


I believe GS300 (and I'm assuming S300) engines are 2JZ-GE, not GTE. The GTE engines are turbocharged.
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Default How fast is the V300???

hi to u all, how fast is the V300??? 0 to 60 and 1/4??
how about the stock handling ??? is it better than the stock GS4 handling????
thanks!!
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Default Re: How fast is the V300???

Originally posted by kyle3481
hi to u all, how fast is the V300??? 0 to 60 and 1/4??
how about the stock handling ??? is it better than the stock GS4 handling????
thanks!!
stock V300 probably isn't as fast as the GS400 (20hp less and less torque also).

But think of it as a 4 door supra and voila~

Handling, it probably is ALITTLE better due to better weight distribution. And yeah any STB will fit a V300.
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Originally posted by illogic
I believe GS300 (and I'm assuming S300) engines are 2JZ-GE, not GTE. The GTE engines are turbocharged.

illogic,

Thanks for correcting my typo.
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