Notices
LS - 4th Gen (2007-2017) Discussion topics related to the current flagship models LS460, LS460L and LS600H

Consumer Reports

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 30, 2018 | 10:56 AM
  #1  
sktn77a's Avatar
sktn77a
Thread Starter
Lead Lap
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,863
Likes: 408
From: Chapel Hill, NC
Default Consumer Reports

Just got the (an?) online version of the April 2018 Consumer Reports annual auto issue. The reliability section is very disappointing- only includes reliability data for 2015, 2016 and 2017 (and half of the 2017 entries are empty)! Does anybody have any version with the complete 7 year histories that are usually published?
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2018 | 01:13 PM
  #2  
jimrd's Avatar
jimrd
Pit Crew
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 107
Likes: 11
From: NC
Default

My print copy looks like it pretty much always has...7 year histories all there, except for models younger than 7 years of course...but I have not checked my online version...any particular car you're looking at?

Last edited by jimrd; Mar 30, 2018 at 01:14 PM. Reason: spell correct
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2018 | 02:53 PM
  #3  
sktn77a's Avatar
sktn77a
Thread Starter
Lead Lap
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,863
Likes: 408
From: Chapel Hill, NC
Default

Just generally looking (plus, I like to keep an eye out for potential problem areas in the cars I own, although the only one that would show up now is my LS).

I think it's their way of bait-and-switching you to pay for the print versions also.
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2018 | 03:24 PM
  #4  
davedudu's Avatar
davedudu
Rookie
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 39
Likes: 8
From: Ga
Default

My online CR has complete reliability information from 2000 through 2016 for the LS.
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2018 | 03:31 PM
  #5  
satiger's Avatar
satiger
Instructor
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 854
Likes: 99
From: New Jersey
Default

Online version has 07-16.



Reply
Old Mar 30, 2018 | 04:33 PM
  #6  
sktn77a's Avatar
sktn77a
Thread Starter
Lead Lap
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,863
Likes: 408
From: Chapel Hill, NC
Default

Interesting...... Here's mine:

Reply
Old Mar 30, 2018 | 05:41 PM
  #7  
Gbp's Avatar
Gbp
Lexus Champion
 
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,486
Likes: 60
From: CA
Default





My online version goes back to 2001! My screen shots show 2002-2016

https://www.consumerreports.org/cars...ility#pagestop
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2018 | 05:45 PM
  #8  
Gbp's Avatar
Gbp
Lexus Champion
 
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,486
Likes: 60
From: CA
Default


Screenshot 2 of 2.
Reply
ClubLexus Stories

Celebrating Lexus & Toyota from Around the Globe

story-0

10 Lexus Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

8 Tips for Improving Your Hybrid or Plug-in Hybrid's Efficiency!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-2

10 Best Lexus Models No One Remembers

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

TRD Off-Road Premium: Best 2026 4Runner, Except This One Thing

 Michael S. Palmer
story-4

Top 10 Lexus & Toyotas to Drive Before You Die!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Top 10 Lexus/Toyotas With The LEAST 5-Year Depreciation

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Lexus LC500 Convertible Auction: A Preview of Rising Values?

 Brett Foote
story-7

GX 550 vs TX 550: Best 3-Row Luxury Lexus Family Hauler

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

9 Best Lexus Models You Can Buy for Half Price (And 1 You Shouldn't!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

2026 Lexus NX Buyer's Guide: Models, Features, Prices & More!

 Brett Foote
Old Mar 31, 2018 | 04:44 AM
  #9  
sktn77a's Avatar
sktn77a
Thread Starter
Lead Lap
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,863
Likes: 408
From: Chapel Hill, NC
Default

Oh, well...... I guess they just don't like me
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2018 | 09:32 AM
  #10  
TexasTea's Avatar
TexasTea
Driver
 
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 51
Likes: 14
From: Texas
Default

Originally Posted by sktn77a
Just got the (an?) online version of the April 2018 Consumer Reports annual auto issue. The reliability section is very disappointing- only includes reliability data for 2015, 2016 and 2017 (and half of the 2017 entries are empty)! Does anybody have any version with the complete 7 year histories that are usually published?
Here is a cropped photo of the April 2018 magazine page showing the reliability of the LS model years:

Reply
Old Mar 31, 2018 | 10:22 AM
  #11  
BMW7_LS430's Avatar
BMW7_LS430
Instructor
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,052
Likes: 128
From: GA
Default

This report can be misleading. It is based on data consumer reports have and not necessarily actual data.
e.g. Paint/Trim issue is red for 07 & 08 but green/light green for 09-12. It is probably because there was a recall for melting dash/armrests but the problem was never really fixed. For other years owners probably fixed it somewhere else and consumer reports do not have data or owners learned to live with it.

Same with suspension, 07 should be red just like 08-10. It doesn't make sense why 07 should not be red. If anything, 10 should be orange instead of red.

If there more detailed data available for the issues that contribute to these ratings? I don't have the subscription or never had it. Just curious.
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2018 | 12:03 PM
  #12  
Gbp's Avatar
Gbp
Lexus Champion
 
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,486
Likes: 60
From: CA
Default

Originally Posted by BMW7_LS430
This report can be misleading. It is based on data consumer reports have and not necessarily actual data.
e.g. Paint/Trim issue is red for 07 & 08 but green/light green for 09-12. It is probably because there was a recall for melting dash/armrests but the problem was never really fixed. For other years owners probably fixed it somewhere else and consumer reports do not have data or owners learned to live with it.

Same with suspension, 07 should be red just like 08-10. It doesn't make sense why 07 should not be red. If anything, 10 should be orange instead of red.

If there more detailed data available for the issues that contribute to these ratings? I don't have the subscription or never had it. Just curious.
The data is based on the responses to surveys Consumer Reports sends to its subcribers. One can’t expect each response to have the same level of accuracy and/or objectivity, but it is “actual data”. I think more detail is available, but am not sure of how to access it. If true, it orobably involves paying for their premium auto services.

IMO, CR probably is one of the more reliable databases for this type of information.

Reply
Old Mar 31, 2018 | 12:33 PM
  #13  
sktn77a's Avatar
sktn77a
Thread Starter
Lead Lap
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,863
Likes: 408
From: Chapel Hill, NC
Default

Originally Posted by Gbp
IMO, CR probably is one of the more reliable databases for this type of information.
I would agree as the surveys are random (ie not just people volunteering negative experiences). Interesting, though, that the 2016 took a slump in overall used car prediction/rating.
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2018 | 08:49 PM
  #14  
jimrd's Avatar
jimrd
Pit Crew
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 107
Likes: 11
From: NC
Default

Originally Posted by sktn77a
I would agree as the surveys are random.
I'm sure the surveys aren't random, I get a ton of emails and reminders every year to participate. But you're right, no idea why '16 ratings dropped when there were no major updates...
Reply
Old Apr 1, 2018 | 12:22 PM
  #15  
Gbp's Avatar
Gbp
Lexus Champion
 
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,486
Likes: 60
From: CA
Default

Originally Posted by jimrd
I'm sure the surveys aren't random, I get a ton of emails and reminders every year to participate. But you're right, no idea why '16 ratings dropped when there were no major updates...
The car reliability survey is sent to subscribers of Cr.org and subscribers of Consumer Reports magazine:

https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...liability-faq/
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:26 AM.

story-0
10 Lexus Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Some luxury cars chase trends, but these Lexus models look better now than they did when they first rolled into showrooms.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-06 17:58:29


VIEW MORE
story-1
8 Tips for Improving Your Hybrid or Plug-in Hybrid's Efficiency!

Slideshow: How to Get the Best Fuel Economy with a Hybrid and Plug-In Hybrid!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-05 20:54:44


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Best Lexus Models No One Remembers

Slideshow: 10 best Lexus models no one remembers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 17:33:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
TRD Off-Road Premium: Best 2026 4Runner, Except This One Thing

Slideshow: diving into 4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium's pricing, performance, fuel economy, features, and amenities!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-23 13:09:18


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Lexus & Toyotas to Drive Before You Die!

Slideshow: the 10 Lexus and Toyota vehicles you need to drive before you die.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-23 10:34:24


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Lexus/Toyotas With The LEAST 5-Year Depreciation

Slideshow: Top 10 Lexus/Toyota models with the lowest 5-year depreciation rate.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-08 12:19:06


VIEW MORE
story-6
Lexus LC500 Convertible Auction: A Preview of Rising Values?

The LC hasn't even disappeared from the Lexus lineup yet, and we're already seeing signs of an explosive market.

By Brett Foote | 2026-04-06 09:25:02


VIEW MORE
story-7
GX 550 vs TX 550: Best 3-Row Luxury Lexus Family Hauler

Slideshow: comparing the pricings, specs, power, fuel economy, fun-factor, and features of the GX 550 Luxury+ and TX 550h+ Luxury.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-03-19 13:44:11


VIEW MORE
story-8
9 Best Lexus Models You Can Buy for Half Price (And 1 You Shouldn't!)

Slideshow: 9 best Lexus models you can buy for half price and 1 you should avoid

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-19 12:01:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2026 Lexus NX Buyer's Guide: Models, Features, Prices & More!

Here's everything you need to know about the latest NX.

By Brett Foote | 2026-03-19 11:56:59


VIEW MORE