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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 01:51 PM
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Page 358 of the Owners Manual (3-3 Using the Audio System).

I am unable to change the listening position - I do not have the "CHANGE" button and do not see the logo of the car seats as shown on page 358. Do you need something other than ML to see the "CHANGE" button and mod the listening position?
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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i believe the seat position is only for ls460 with normal premium audio?

on the ML equipped cars, you should see the 4 seats and the FR LR balance controls
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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Change position is for non-ML systems.

ML systems get the surround on or off option.
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 03:50 PM
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That's too bad... Would have liked to maximize the sound stage for the drivers seat vs how the ML system is optimized by default (rear seats).

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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 04:07 PM
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I agree that the rear seat "experience" is much better. Terrain, try this: turn the Surround Sound off, increase the mid-range a notch or two, set the bass as you like.
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 04:28 PM
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ML's reference system is defaulted to a neutral position, just back of the driver's seat. They had to pick something as the front seats have a long travel, especially the LWB. The sound gets richer, or bass'ier when the listening position is shifted to the rear seats, where the subwoofer is situated. That's why it sounds better in the back. However, when I redirect the listening position to the back, the very low frequency emphasis can be a little bit overbearing. Some tunes can actually give me a background headache, and I've never been susceptible to this in the past, so that ML system really does deliver the goods, albeit too much at times.
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 06:42 PM
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Overall my limited experience with the ML - 2 weeks and counting I would give it a 5 out of 10... I'm not nearly as impressed as I thought I might be. It's not worse than systems in my other cars/previous cars but its not better either...

Burn - I know what you are talking about with the low frequency flapping --- give me a headache as well.

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Overall my limited experience with the ML - 2 weeks and counting I would give it a 5 out of 10... I'm not nearly as impressed as I thought I might be. It's not worse than systems in my other cars/previous cars but its not better either...
?! what cars did you have. stock systems?
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 06:54 PM
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Just looking at the system in my 08 Sequia Platinum IMO it sounds equally good - and is easier to listen to on a variety of music types/sources. Like Burn said when I turn it up with a variety of music types it goes into the "Bass flap" and provides sense of headache so I turn it down.

I agree with many others - that with the right CD you can get great results. Problem is that for the most part with Radio and Sat the experience is not impressive.

I have a feeling that over time and by tweaking the settings and selecting the right material this system will indeed have "Fantastic Moments".

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?! what cars did you have. stock systems?

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