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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 12:15 AM
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Default ML audio = DVDA but no MP3, right?

Please confirm.
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 12:16 AM
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Right, no MP3.
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 12:27 AM
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Awwwwwwww, shucks.

What about ventilated seats? Meaning, AC blowing on my booty?
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 12:39 AM
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Haha...sorry about that. There was high hopes on the MP3 earlier on, but freebay got a car, tried it and it didn't work. Yes, it does have heated and air conditioned seats....a great feature with leather seats.
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 340HP
Please confirm.
One might have to be careful on how to interpret "compatible with DVD-A." The press release was carefully worded, and while it said the ML system plays DVD-A discs, the same is true of any DVD-V player because DVD-A discs almost without exception carry a separate version of the main contents duplicated in the DVD-V zone. So what you are most likely hearing in the GS ML system from 5.1 DVD-A discs is either Dolby Digital or DTS encoded, not multichannel PCM/MLP from the DVD-A content zone.

I'm only saying this because the release was careful to avoid claiming it played the actual 96/24 DVD-A content. Of course it might really play DVD-A contents, but the only way I think that can be proved would be to play a disc with no DVD-V compatible content--and I don't know of any titles like that.
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 08:07 AM
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I have a very hi-end audio system at home that plays DTS audio and AC3 audio discs straight fom my CD player (thru SPDIF out). It's a nice feature, but you have to convert MP3 to DTS, which is a cumbersome process. I'd rather just stick a 16 gig DVD into the system and listen to a huge MP3 collection.

This could be a big deciding factor between the M45 and the GS430.

I still need to test drive both vehicles.

Thanks for the comments.
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 08:10 AM
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Default I keep forgetting to try the MP3

Lexus of course is the source of the info about MP3 ability of the Mark Lev. Frebay had trouble with a DVD disc also he said. I went back to cleanup yesterday and none of the detailers were cleaning the GS300 with Mark Lev. They were all in the front seat intently watching Training Day! I left one of my DVD videos in the drive the other night and the next day I was off and boy did one of my comrades get a surprise when demonstrating the system and 50 Cent jumped up in his face.....Acura makes a nice little demo disc for their 5.1 DTS surround sound however Lexus has not evolved to that level yet. I used to have a Mark Levinson demo disc which played in the car and on a Computer drive. It had one of my favorite Chopin piano pieces Waltz #64 played in a Jazz arrangement. I lent it to an associate for a demo and I think he made it a parting gift when his customer bought the car. I just negotiated with my eleven year old to let me borrow his precious MP3 disc so I can try it. I would like to see an easy interface for an IPOD or other such device. Take your favorite DVD with you when you go for a test drive next week and remember to turn the Audio level back down before leaving Disc as the AM/FM will shatter your eardrums with it cranked up to Max level which is 65. 45 to 50 is a pretty impressive SPL to test the system at. You know, we live in an interesting time.
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 08:20 AM
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Default AC or Just Ventilation??

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Yes, it does have heated and air conditioned seats....a great feature with leather seats.
Are you sure that the seat ventilation feature uses A/C cooled air? I was told it was just "ventilation" - meaning that a fan in the seat circulates air.
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 340HP
I have a very hi-end audio system at home that plays DTS audio and AC3 audio discs straight fom my CD player (thru SPDIF out). It's a nice feature, but you have to convert MP3 to DTS, which is a cumbersome process. I'd rather just stick a 16 gig DVD into the system and listen to a huge MP3 collection.

This could be a big deciding factor between the M45 and the GS430.

I still need to test drive both vehicles.

Thanks for the comments.
Right, but that still is just the sound generated from regular DVD (DVD-Video sound tracks), not DVD-Audio. I think folks are getting wound up around your title including the term DVD-A.

All it sounds like you want to know is if the unit will play MP-3s burned to a normal single layer DVD, correct?

Rockville et al, there are two things we should try to test. MP-3s burned to a CD (probably what the 11 yo has) and also MP-3s burned to a DVD. IF it doesn't play 'em on a CD it isn't likely to on a DVD.

The software on the 3GS headunit looks just like the stuff on my aftermarket Eclipse nav / dvd and mine plays MP-3s just fine, at least from CD (I've never tried from DVD). I assume the maker is still Fujitsu-ten (also parent company to Eclipse).
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 10:20 AM
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Default The Ventilated seat option

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Are you sure that the seat ventilation feature uses A/C cooled air? I was told it was just "ventilation" - meaning that a fan in the seat circulates air.
The ventilated seat option gets you "cooled air" through those little holes in the leather. It uses a Peltier element in the seat which can supply heated air or cooled air. The A/C is not involved. You will see a little blue section on the dial for the seat heaters. So far we only get it on the GS430's in our region.
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Sandman
Are you sure that the seat ventilation feature uses A/C cooled air? I was told it was just "ventilation" - meaning that a fan in the seat circulates air.
It's not just ventilated, it's cool air that comes out. When I say "air conditioned" I mean colder air than it is outside. The ES330 has "air- cooled" seats (i.e. ventilated). The new GS has a dial with 1-2-3 for cold air. We tested it out and you can feel the cold air coming through. It's not ice cold, but will definately make a difference on a hot summer day!
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 11:00 AM
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i'll vouch for that...ice cold air blows out....pretty cool if u think about it.
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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Post MP3 options

So what are the options for MP3 in the new GS
- cassette deck adapter
- FM radio adapter
- After market deck
- Convert your MP3s to a DVD-A? format.

[ I assume it cant play WMAs also]

Could you possibly disconnect the cassette deck cables to the head unit and run/extend some cable out to a MP3 player? e.g. my Alphine has an AUX input with the cables running out to the glovebox. I assume you would select Tape input and then play your ipod/mp3-player.

I am kind of surprised Lexus would forget about MP3s, is this a copyright thing they are concerned with or just bad planning? Are MP3s not big in Japan? Could a firmware upgrade fix this or would a new DVD unit be required?
I see PERFORMANCE and MP3s going together image wise. Possibly not their target market segment.

Anyone converted MP3 to "DVD format"? I dont mean put MP3 files on a DVD, I mean convert to AC3 or whatever DVD-Audio is. How many could you get on a DVD?

I did like the Ms input ports in the back seat.
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BugattiT59
Anyone converted MP3 to "DVD format"? I dont mean put MP3 files on a DVD, I mean convert to AC3 or whatever DVD-Audio is. How many could you get on a DVD?
A single layer "5 GB" DVD-V disc can hold 40 hours of AC-3 encoded at 256 kbps, a good rate to use when cascading MP3 with AC-3 if you want to avoid adding more coding artifacts. If you rip from CD directly to AC-3, you can use 192 kbps for similar or better quality as the MP3/AC-3 conversion and the disc will hold 54 hours.

If you choose to avoid re-encoding your MP3s (or WMAs, AACs, etc) or just want to transfer your CDs without compression, then a DVD-V disc will hold 6.8 hours of 2-ch PCM. Just note that since CDs are 44.1 and DVDs are at 48 kHz sample rate, your program will use a sample rate converter in the process. It needs to be a decent one to avoid hurting the sound quality.
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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What about Sirius Satellite? Wasn't Lexus supposes to offer this as of February as a dealer installed option?
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