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They're putting Michelins on the 2008's? Lexus must have listened to me!
I received a survey from Lexus after I bought my car. The only knock I had was they put Turanza EL 42's on my car. I told them for the money I expected a better tire.
I really don't have any knock on the Turanza EL 42. My wife got them on her Jag and they have worn very well and they're quiet. I just wanted a better quality tire on my LS.
I agree the Turanza EL42 is not a good choice for a premium vehicle. I had these on my 2003 LS430, 2005 Toyota Sienna and now (LS460- 430 sold). Terrible tread rating and sub par wet traction performance IMHO.
I think Michelin, Goodyear, Yokohama, or Dunlop would be more suitable.
I am considering going to my local Discount Tire and seeing what they can do for me as trade ins. I usually purchase road hazard and lifetime balance from them even if I did not buy tires from them (Well worth it since I have had them replace tires at no charge due to screws and other road hazards not to mention the obvious rotations). My only concern is I swap my vehicles anywhere from 1 to 3 years and don't even get near the point of having to swap tires. (I keep telling myself I want to hang on to a vehicle 10 years and pass it on to my sons. God grant me patience.) That said, I had to swap out my Turanzas on my Sienna prematurely. I did not keep my LS430 long enough to have to swap tires but the wear was excessive for having only 19K miles when I did buy another vehicle.
I think the Turanzas are getting a bad rap, and unfair I might add. I had Michelin Pilots MXM4 I think they were on my Acura 3.8 CL Type S. We have a nice flat curvy highway in Vancouver called the Barnet (Roborapata knows it). The fastest I could negotiate those curves with those tires on rainy days was about 130kms/hr (about 80mph) before they would start to break loose. I've had the Turanzas EL42s up to 160km/hr (100mph) under the same conditions, and they were holding steady with no lane crossing. The only reason I didn't reach the breaking point was I was running out of road fast.
*Yes, I do these little spins all alone with no cars in sight, after midnight*
The Bridgestones are fine up here as most of the roads are asphalt coated. I can't comment too much about concrete highways except for small trials going over the Border to Bellingham. But, on those roads they are definitely noisier, as I expect they would be.
So it goes without saying that road conditions have a strong influence on tire performance, and really for this type of car, you'd have to have pretty sophisticated instruments to tell the difference. Going by opinions like those on Tirerack is pretty sporadic at best as those road conditions, a driver's perceptions, opinions and individual driving styles really call these subjective ratings into question. The scientific data that supports them is also suspect as these don't reflect real-life conditions, imho.
Yes, I may switch to Michelin when the time comes, but between now and then, the Bridgestones' performance may ultimately alter my final decision if they continue to perform as well as they do now.
The EL42's got a horrible rep on Acura forums, for bad traction, road noise and irregular/fast wear. After a year or two, Acura phased them out because of the owner uproar.
But the trouble is that an EL42 isn't necessarily an EL42. That is, these OEM tires are made to mfr's specs and the ones on the LS might not be like the ones on the Acuras. I've seen tires by the same mfr, with the same name, that didn't resemble each other ... different tread pattern, different weight load ratings, different treadwear, traction and temperature ratings.
But I'd still be happier with some Michelins if it were me.
I'll be replacing my Bridgestones when the time comes.
When cold they are bumpy for the first three or four blocks reminding me of the nylon tires of old. When I looked at the ply content on the sidewall sure enough nylon is one of them.
I think Lexus could have done better for their flagship vehicle.