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Oct 11, 2018 | 02:32 PM

RushNatU

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LS430 Alignment issues

So I had 20” wheels on my ride this Spring/Summer and hit a few good size potholes this year. Saw that my two left wheels had a slight visible bend so put the stock 18” back on. Car drives perfectly smooth but pulling to the left when steering wheel was held straight. So I knew an alignment needed done. I don't let anyone but myself or the dealer (if I have to) touch the car. Decided to take it to my local Toyota dealership.

Sitting in the waiting room eating their doughnuts he comes out with a piece of paper that has $1300 at the bottom. Starts telling me that the control arms are maxed out and he would need to replace the front lower control arm bushings, and both rear lower control arms “for longer units” due to caster issues. I said that the car drives fine, no cluncking, no vibrations, steering tight, just pulls a little to the left and I was not going to drop $1300. He said they would do their best to get the toe straight. I agreed and said I would see how it drives. Well a half hour later service guy comes out and shows me the alignment printouts (see attachments).

What do you guys think for $119.95?

Last edited by RA40; Oct 17, 2018 at 06:33 PM. Reason: added pic

Oct 11, 2018 | 02:40 PM

sha4000

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Where are the attachments?

Oct 11, 2018 | 02:45 PM

RushNatU

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Where are the attachments?

Working on it. I tried to upload from my phone as a picture but its being stupid. On the PC now...

Edit: Picture uploaded. Are we not allowed to upload directly to the site? Everytime I tried to upload it just kicked me back out...

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Oct 11, 2018 | 05:57 PM

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Either you need new springs in the rear or you can pay for the longer camber arms. As these cars age and the springs sag you have either of those 2 options. New springs will fix the problem, new longer camber arms fix the symptom.

Oct 13, 2018 | 04:22 AM

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At 70k miles in 2011 the previous owner had all four struts and mounts replaced. I am not sure if the springs were included in that, but if they were, do you think they could still be sagging after 7 years. The car gets driven gently and nobody sits in the back at least in the last two years.

Here are the service history entries...

Service: STEERING WHL/MAIN SHAFT
Description: STEERING WHL/MAIN SHAFT ~|~C/S SUSPENSION SQUEEKS ON DRIVER SIDE AREA WHEN GOING OVER BUMPS ~|~TECH FOUND DRIVER SIDE FRONT AND REAR STRUTS/MOUNTS ARE LEAKING ~|~REPLACE DRIVER SIDE FRONT AND REAR STRUTS/MOUNTS PER LEXUS EXTRA CARE PAY $1045.05 AUTH#VSA2GA0987

Service: FRONT AXLE
Description: FRONT AXLE ~|~CUSTOMER STATES SUSPENSIONS SQUEEKS ~|~TECH FOUND RIGHT FRONT AND RIGHT REAR STRUTS/MOUNTS LEAKING ~|~REPLACE RIGHT FRONT AND REAR STRUT/MOUNTS PER LEXUS EXTRA CARE PAY $1024.81 AUTH# VSA1ZE6063

I am more concerned with the front end because the car still pulls to the left when the steering wheel is held straight. Would the rear suspension numbers be causing this? They actually look slightly worse in the rear AFTER the alignment.

Oct 17, 2018 | 06:34 PM

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Appended your alignment pic.

Oct 20, 2018 | 04:38 AM

RushNatU

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Appended your alignment pic.

Thanks.

I am going back to the Toyota dealership to get the front aligned again (for free). Car has an off center steering wheel. They must have aligned it with the steering wheel slightly to the right so when I hold it straight, it pulls left pretty hard.

Also, it seems that the steering wheel does not return to center all the way after a turn. And if I am in the right lane and let the car drift over the road crown into the left lane, as soon as the left wheel goes over the road crown, it pulls harder left. Would this point to the lower control arm bushings? I do not feel any looseness in the steering, its just kind of lazy to return to center and tends to wander requiring constant correction.

As far as the rear suspension, the camber is out evenly on both sides so should not cause a pull but I will look into some new springs in the back. Anybody know what the ride height should be in the back?

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Oct 22, 2018 | 01:46 PM

Stu

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It took me over 6 years and five ! 4 wheel alignments to get my alignment issue on my LS properly repaired. Some people take no pride in their work, and the rest are just stupid a__hats !