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Old Nov 6, 2017 | 01:36 PM
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Hi all, haven't posted in a while about my 98 LS400. I recently started having an issue with the auto headlights not shutting off after leaving the car.
I know the first thought would be door, trunk, hood sensors. Tested all of them and they work normally. Open door/trunk/hood indications in the cluster also work normally.
Here's the most interesting part -- even with a door ajar, you can normally kill the lights by arming twice. This no longer works... the lights stay on no martter how many times you arm.
They turn on/off normally while driving depending on light level -- they only stay on and refuse to extinguish when shutting down after dark, and will run the battery completely flat unless manually shut off.
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Old Nov 6, 2017 | 05:51 PM
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I used to have this issue from time to time. I would just manually shut them off. Sometimes they would go off and other times they would not. I never did anything to fix it and just chalked it up to the car being old.
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 04:46 AM
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Sounds like a problem in the headlight delayed turn off circuit; I'm not sure if it uses a physical relay, or a solid-state control, but it's stuck on, which bypasses all the other controls, except the OFF switch.

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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 09:38 AM
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Anyone know which module controls this? I wonder if I have degraded caps, ect.
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by djamps
Anyone know which module controls this? I wonder if I have degraded caps, ect.
Body ECU?. Some factory wiring diagrams to assist in your trouble shooting efforts...










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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 09:32 PM
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Thank you YODAONE!
So looking at the diagrams it seems the culprit is most likely the "body ecu"?
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Old Nov 8, 2017 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by djamps
Thank you YODAONE!
So looking at the diagrams it seems the culprit is most likely the "body ecu"?
The Light Control Switch connects to body ECU.
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Old Nov 8, 2017 | 10:13 PM
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At first I'd check the relay's contacts to see how one side is convex (pip) and the other concave (crater). I have seen many relay problems such as a situation of dog's intercourse.
This is common problems among aged DC relay's contacts that carry big current.

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Old Nov 9, 2017 | 05:45 AM
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"situation of a dog's intercourse" . Never ran across that one before, although I've often filed relay contacts to remove deposition fouling deposits. Wish I could find an emoji for that!
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Originally Posted by fixmiester
"situation of a dog's intercourse" . Never ran across that one before, although I've often filed relay contacts to remove deposition fouling deposits. Wish I could find an emoji for that!
http://www.esterline.com/Portals/3/H...ure%203.1c.jpg
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