Notices
LS - 1st and 2nd Gen (1990-2000) Discussion topics related to the 1990 - 2000 Lexus LS400

96 electronics staying on

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 23, 2024 | 07:25 PM
  #1  
irwinjacob09's Avatar
irwinjacob09
Thread Starter
3rd Gear
 
Joined: Apr 2024
Posts: 3
Likes: 1
Default 96 electronics staying on

I have a 96 LS400. A few weeks ago my battery randomly drained overnight. Jumped it and didn’t have the issue again until today. Battery was dead after work. The gauge cluster is staying on when I shut the car off. Pulling the gauge fuse in kick panel fuse box shuts it off. Eventually it shut off like normal, after checking some fuses and relays. After about 20 minutes of being parked tonight, the headlights came on. They were on auto, turning them off worked fine. Just checking to see if anybody has had a similar issue or any ideas of what could cause this.
For background, car has 363k miles, ECU has been rebuilt, newer alternator and battery.
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2024 | 10:21 PM
  #2  
Yamae's Avatar
Yamae
CL Community Team
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 4,168
Likes: 1,006
From: Japan
Default

Sorry for your problem. I myself have no exact experience with your problem, but the MPX body computer may be related. Because your 2 separate symptoms of the gauge cluster and the head lights on are commonly controlled by that computer. One idea is to disconnect all connectors from it to distinguish the problem.
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2024 | 01:28 PM
  #3  
irwinjacob09's Avatar
irwinjacob09
Thread Starter
3rd Gear
 
Joined: Apr 2024
Posts: 3
Likes: 1
Default

Originally Posted by Yamae
Sorry for your problem. I myself have no exact experience with your problem, but the MPX body computer may be related. Because your 2 separate symptoms of the gauge cluster and the head lights on are commonly controlled by that computer. One idea is to disconnect all connectors from it to distinguish the problem.
I will have to try this tonight. Do you know of a rebuild service for the BCM? Or if they have a common failure point? Thank you.
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2024 | 06:35 PM
  #4  
Yamae's Avatar
Yamae
CL Community Team
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 4,168
Likes: 1,006
From: Japan
Default

Sorry that I don't know about the current situations of the rebuilding service agents in your country since it's been a long time after I came back to Japan. If I were you, I'd try to fix the problem using equipments such as an oscilloscope, a logic analyzer, a DVM, signal generators, good soldering tools and my skills. I am a guy who enjoy doing it. Local dealer managers and shop owners often call me for a help when they encounter electronics related problems that require deep skills to fix. I just fix units just for my curiosity and it's free.

The MPX body computer has electrolytic capacitors which contain QAS and they often fail when aged just like capacitors in the ECU although those survive a bit longer due to the lesser stress and smaller ripple currents. See the photo below. Those capacitors are already removed. Other than those capacitors, relays (white square box ones) sometimes fail too caused by the worn contacts which show one side convex and the other side concave. It would be smarter to replace these parts before problems happen.


Reply
Old Apr 24, 2024 | 08:36 PM
  #5  
irwinjacob09's Avatar
irwinjacob09
Thread Starter
3rd Gear
 
Joined: Apr 2024
Posts: 3
Likes: 1
Default

Originally Posted by Yamae
Sorry that I don't know about the current situations of the rebuilding service agents in your country since it's been a long time after I came back to Japan. If I were you, I'd try to fix the problem using equipments such as an oscilloscope, a logic analyzer, a DVM, signal generators, good soldering tools and my skills. I am a guy who enjoy doing it. Local dealer managers and shop owners often call me for a help when they encounter electronics related problems that require deep skills to fix. I just fix units just for my curiosity and it's free.

The MPX body computer has electrolytic capacitors which contain QAS and they often fail when aged just like capacitors in the ECU although those survive a bit longer due to the lesser stress and smaller ripple currents. See the photo below. Those capacitors are already removed. Other than those capacitors, relays (white square box ones) sometimes fail too caused by the worn contacts which show one side convex and the other side concave. It would be smarter to replace these parts before problems happen.

Thank you for the insight. Didn’t have time to try unplugging the unit to see if it turned the gauges off today. After looking through wiring diagrams, I’m hoping it’s a short in the junction box but we will see once I have time to dig into it. If it turns out to be the capacitors or relays in the
body computer, I may try contacting you to help me identify which parts I will need to fix it. If that is alright with you. Thank you again for the help.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
LSneewb
LS - 3rd Gen (2001-2006)
8
Sep 23, 2022 07:30 PM
hondagsxr6
GS - 2nd Gen (1998-2005)
6
Jul 30, 2009 12:33 PM
Mrpickles
LS - 1st and 2nd Gen (1990-2000)
1
Dec 3, 2008 09:48 AM
buh_buh
LS - 1st and 2nd Gen (1990-2000)
2
Oct 21, 2008 10:33 AM
adub1124
SC - 1st Gen (1992-2000)
5
Nov 15, 2007 09:11 PM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:55 AM.