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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 03:36 AM
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Hi guys, so I've had the car for roughly 1 month now and noticed two issues which I found odd, just wanted to clarify that either my issues are nothing to worry about or to know if I need to take it in to the dealers to have it changed under warranty.

Firstly the AC display looks hazed up really bad, I've tried cleaning it with a damp cloth but the haze will not go away, not even slightly.

Is this normal on the ISF?



Secondly I noticed that on the inside of one of my exhaust tips the metal seems to have come off, is this normal? and is this claimable under warranty?

Wow looking at the pic I just realized that the metal mesh behind the tips seems dented in from the top left corner, I have to take a closer look to see what is there.

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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 04:54 AM
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the exhaust it looked like the first owner if it is second hand car smashed the rear exhaust tips to something , my car had the same thing when i bought it the dash thing should be adressed to the warranty my two cents
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 04:57 AM
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if it is not a second hand could be a valet parking issue or even the dealer and it was there and you didnt noticed but something bang it
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 05:07 AM
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Nope the car is brand new, only 2000km on the clock, I suspect it was the guys who cleans my car

So is it covered under warranty?
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 05:07 AM
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the haze doesnt look normal to me, but i dont think they will do anything about the exhaust paint flaking
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 06:06 AM
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really? it's only been 1 month on a brand new car?

What about the bent metal mesh behind the tips? do you think they will do anything about that?

As for the haze, I'm suspecting the car came with a protective plastic cover/film thing, I will check later when I'm in the car if it can be removed,

Can anyone do me a favor and take a pic of theirs so I can show it to the dealership? would be a great help.
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Defratos
As for the haze, I'm suspecting the car came with a protective plastic cover/film thing, I will check later when I'm in the car if it can be removed,
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Yup this is probably it, there is also a cover on the "P R N M D" portion of your gear shifter.

You are probably SOL on your exhaust thing, you could possibly remove it from your car and tell them it fell off.....but that would be dishonest.
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the bent in exhaust is normal, everyone has that, not the peeling paint or the haziness though.
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Yup this is probably it, there is also a cover on the "P R N M D" portion of your gear shifter.

You are probably SOL on your exhaust thing, you could possibly remove it from your car and tell them it fell off.....but that would be dishonest.
Thanks for the info, but what do you mean by SOL?

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the bent in exhaust is normal, everyone has that, not the peeling paint or the haziness though.
Are you sure? so everyone here has the same bent exhaust mesh thing? this is normal?
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Defratos
Thanks for the info, but what do you mean by SOL?



Are you sure? so everyone here has the same bent exhaust mesh thing? this is normal?
I think he meant, SOL = ***** Out of Luck?
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my 09' also has the exhaust tip paint chipping/coming off. i figured the car is now 3.5 years old and it was normal. i also think the bent mesh metal part is normal, too. i think i remember seeing it like that last time i looked carefully down there but i'll double check during my lunch.
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Defratos

Nope the car is brand new, only 2000km on the clock, I suspect it was the guys who cleans my car

So is it covered under warranty?
I think I found your answer.... On the "Peeling & Hazing" on your 2013 IS-F

Looks to me like, whatever he is using to "CLEAN" you car in those areas is causing the issues...


Everything else looks normal..

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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 11:48 AM
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Hi Defratos,

Just checked my 2012 and yes, both sides of the mesh are bent in. Probably to clear the bumper properly. Also if you look closely, you'll find that directly above the bent in mesh it also is not painted. The chipped paint, however, is not normal unless the tip got bent and it caused the paint to crack and finally start to peel. On my 2009 IS F I actually had stronger welds on the tips to ensure that they would not break off like some have had. I used flat black high temp. engine paint to touch up the inside of the tips. As for the hazing, mine looks similar. I didn't notice it until your post. Maybe so that glare doesn't obsure the readouts in that panel?
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 11:52 AM
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the dash, looks like he used degreaser which ate up the plastics.
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ISFPOWER
the dash, looks like he used degreaser which ate up the plastics.
Bingo..... And whatever was sprayed on the Tips loosened the internal black paint...

These items are WAY TO NEW to have this type of rapid aging effect..

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