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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 08:10 AM
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A little over 25K miles on the car on the original brake pads. Don't track the car, just spirited driving once in a while.

I am hearing brake squealing from the front once in a while while braking lightly at very low speed (3 MPH or so). I tried duplicating it by braking down hard from 25 MPH or so (with windows open so I can listen good) but there is no squealing sound at all.

The question is this: Is this once in a while squealing at very low speeds the indicator for pad replacement?
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Autobacs
A little over 25K miles on the car on the original brake pads. Don't track the car, just spirited driving once in a while.

I am hearing brake squealing from the front once in a while braking lightly at very low speed (3 MPH or so). I tried duplicating it by braking down hard from 25 MPH or so (with windows open so I can listen good) but there is no squealing sound at all.

The question is this: Is this once in a while squealing at very low speeds the indicator for pad replacement?
you can actually see the OUTSIDE brake pad without taking off the rim...

If you're some what handy, loosen the lug nuts, jack the car up, take the wheel off, then you can use a flash light and look at the brake caliper to see the pads and how much life is left. Don't try going by noise because our pads will squeak every now and then. If you get constant squeaking, might be time to replace them, but why replace them if it's not needed?

This picture should help...You don't want the pad surface to wear down to the brake pad backing.
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 08:44 AM
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go to the dealer tell them your breaks are squeaky and the hand them these two TSBs. SB-0044-10 SB-0043-11. They are specifically for squeaky brake pads while breaking under low speeds. I got both my front and rear pads changed free of charge. Hope that helps
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 09:17 AM
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His sig says it's a 2008...warranty might be up....??
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 09:37 AM
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go to the dealer tell them your breaks are squeaky and the hand them these two TSBs. SB-0044-10 SB-0043-11. They are specifically for squeaky brake pads while breaking under low speeds. I got both my front and rear pads changed free of charge. Hope that helps
I got mine replaced 2 months ago under the TSB...and it's squeaking ever more

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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 09:39 AM
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It is up and was thinking the same thing.

But a SB is good regardless of warranty right?

Just curios for others as I already decided to replace them w/ other than OEM pads.
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 10:13 AM
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Mine have the same exact problem... I have Wearever brake pads sitting in my closet, so my plan is to get all 4 OEM replaced, then have the dealer put in the Wearevers, and take off the new OEM ones and sell them.......
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Originally Posted by sleepyray
I got mine replaced 2 months ago under the TSB...and it's squeaking ever money
ever money? Squeaking is apart of the brakes. It's a 6-piston high performance brake system. As long as it's not screaming, personally, I'm ok with it. It's the trade off you get. I have HAWK pads in the front with CENTRIC rotors and it started to squeak every now and then. Much less squeaking before with HAWK pads and OEM rotors. The rears i have StopTech pads with OEM rotors. Ever since i switched to the Centric rotors, i can definitely feel a loss of initial bite.

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It is up and was thinking the same thing.

But a SB is good regardless of warranty right?

Just curios for others as I already decided to replace them w/ other than OEM pads.
TSB might be good regardless of warranty, especially since you have only 25k miles on a 2008 (i have 93k on a 2008 purchased in Sept 08).

I think it might depend on the dealer. If I had the money, I'd go with OEM pads and OEM rotors, but damn it's just so much more expensive....Less than $600 in parts for all 4 corners or almost $1800 in parts for all 4 corners.

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Mine have the same exact problem... I have Wearever brake pads sitting in my closet, so my plan is to get all 4 OEM replaced, then have the dealer put in the Wearevers, and take off the new OEM ones and sell them.......
You should learn to change them yourself. It's really easy.... You just need to take off the wheel, a 13mm socket wrench, and a rubber hammer and a strong small tipped driver to push the two guide pins out, remove pads, re-install. One of the easiest things you can learn to do on a car is replace the brakes, and it's something you'll be doing for the rest of your driving career.

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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Just F Me
ever money? Squeaking is apart of the brakes. It's a 6-piston high performance brake system. As long as it's not screaming, personally, I'm ok with it. It's the trade off you get. I have HAWK pads in the front with CENTRIC rotors and it started to squeak every now and then. Much less squeaking before with HAWK pads and OEM rotors. The rears i have StopTech pads with OEM rotors. Ever since i switched to the Centric rotors, i can definitely feel a loss of initial bite.



TSB might be good regardless of warranty, especially since you have only 25k miles on a 2008 (i have 93k on a 2008 purchased in Sept 08).

I think it might depend on the dealer. If I had the money, I'd go with OEM pads and OEM rotors, but damn it's just so much more expensive....Less than $600 in parts for all 4 corners or almost $1800 in parts for all 4 corners.



You should learn to change them yourself. It's really easy.... You just need to take off the wheel, a 14mm socket wrench, and a rubber hammer and a strong small tipped driver to push the two guide pins out, remove pads, re-install. One of the easiest things you can learn to do on a car is replace the brakes, and it's something you'll be doing for the rest of your driving career.
Raybestos rotors are made by Brembo. They're the bargain for sure.

If you try a 14mm wrench on the bridge bolt, you'll be unhappy. It's a 13mm bolt.
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Old Dec 17, 2012 | 07:24 AM
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Thanks to all. All these INFO is very helpful.
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Old Dec 17, 2012 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by lobuxracer
If you try a 14mm wrench on the bridge bolt, you'll be unhappy. It's a 13mm bolt.
Fixed...happy now?
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Old Dec 17, 2012 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Just F Me
You should learn to change them yourself. It's really easy.... You just need to take off the wheel, a 13mm socket wrench, and a rubber hammer and a strong small tipped driver to push the two guide pins out, remove pads, re-install. One of the easiest things you can learn to do on a car is replace the brakes, and it's something you'll be doing for the rest of your driving career.
Thanks for the pic and quick description. I didn't realize I would need to take a bolt out (I haven't had to do that with previous cars) but I've got some new pads I'm wanting to put on soon. But I agree that it's really quiet easy to swap pads...I'm sure I would have figured out the bolt was there pretty quickly.
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Old Dec 17, 2012 | 10:05 AM
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Pic description is very helpful. Thanks for posting that Just F Me!
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Old Dec 17, 2012 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by iH8RICERZ
Pic description is very helpful. Thanks for posting that Just F Me!
No problem homie. BTW...i know the pic says REMOVE THIS FIRST where the 13mm bolt is highlighted, but you don't have to. I was working on a brake pad replacement tutorial back then, got lazy, never finished it...lol
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