Lexus Customer Support Program Letter regarding A/C Servo Motors
What the letter and the Lexus staff fails to mention, when you call to set up an appointment, is that the $271.00 diagnosis fee, required to determine if the AC servo motor(s) are functioning properly, will have to be paid by you if the dealer determines that the servo motors are not the cause of the problem.
In my opinion, this is a cheap way to support your customers LEXUS!
If you installed faulty parts in the vehicle, you should do what it takes to fix it. If you must run tests on the vehicle to find the problem, that is part of YOUR process.
Finally, if you determine that the AC problems are not caused by the servo motors, then it will be up to me to have it fixed or not at my expenses.
I can’t help to think that this:
is one way to get-me-in-the-door marketing scheme
Lexus policy to cover the cost of the “recall”
Dealer’s own scheme to make money - since this item was not mentioned in the letter from Lexus – (Torrance Lexus)
In any case, I waisted 1.5 hours at the dealer going through the good old fashion “talking to the manager” routine which left me with the awful feeling expected from a used car lot experience.
Long time Toyota/Lexus owner…thinking of trying Honda/Acura now
What the letter and the Lexus staff fails to mention, when you call to set up an appointment, is that the $271.00 diagnosis fee, required to determine if the AC servo motor(s) are functioning properly, will have to be paid by you if the dealer determines that the servo motors are not the cause of the problem.
In my opinion, this is a cheap way to support your customers LEXUS!
If you installed faulty parts in the vehicle, you should do what it takes to fix it. If you must run tests on the vehicle to find the problem, that is part of YOUR process.
Finally, if you determine that the AC problems are not caused by the servo motors, then it will be up to me to have it fixed or not at my expenses.
I can’t help to think that this:
is one way to get-me-in-the-door marketing scheme
Lexus policy to cover the cost of the “recall”
Dealer’s own scheme to make money - since this item was not mentioned in the letter from Lexus – (Torrance Lexus)
In any case, I waisted 1.5 hours at the dealer going through the good old fashion “talking to the manager” routine which left me with the awful feeling expected from a used car lot experience.
Long time Toyota/Lexus owner…thinking of trying Honda/Acura now
Unfortunately it wasn't a great experience that brought you here.
I'm not sure how much experience you've had with warranty repairs, but the process is always the same.
Your car has an issue, you bring it into the dealer and they provide you a diagnostic quote to look at the vehicle...in this case the $271.
If the issue is a fault covered under warranty, then the vehicle is repaired free of charge...including any diagnostic fees.
If the issue is not a fault covered by warranty, then you pay the diagnostic fee. Usually if you do the repair at the dealer they will waive most if not all of the diagnostic fee...but not in every situation, depending on what the fault is.
Even with the letter it doesn't mean that the issue with your vehicle is caused by the fault indicated in the letter.
In fact you never actually stated that there was an issue with your vehicle...only you got the letter.
The dealer at least needs to check the vehicle to determine if it has an issue, and what the issue is. If the fault is covered by the letter, then they will not charge you any fees.
If the fault is not covered by the letter, then you pay the diagnostic fee, which they have to let you know about up front before beginning work on your vehicle.
If they didn't tell you about the diagnostic fee up front, and then they checked the vehicle and determined the fault was not covered by the letter, then they would be asking for their $271 after the fact.
Now you concern would be they are charging you a diagnostic fee that you didn't agree to up front.
Either way it's a lose lose situation for the dealer...you either upset about the fee up front or after the fact (if the fault was not covered by the letter).
The dealer doesn't have a crystal ball to see what is wrong with your vehicle before you bring it in for service...they still need to check it.
Because they don't know what's wrong with it until they check it, they also can't tell you if the letter will cover the repair.
I'm not sure what your reasonable expectation of the dealer was in this situation...and I'm sure everything above was probably told to you by the service manager already.
Unfortunately it wasn't a great experience that brought you here.
I'm not sure how much experience you've had with warranty repairs, but the process is always the same.
Your car has an issue, you bring it into the dealer and they provide you a diagnostic quote to look at the vehicle...in this case the $271.
If the issue is a fault covered under warranty, then the vehicle is repaired free of charge...including any diagnostic fees.
If the issue is not a fault covered by warranty, then you pay the diagnostic fee. Usually if you do the repair at the dealer they will waive most if not all of the diagnostic fee...but not in every situation, depending on what the fault is.
Even with the letter it doesn't mean that the issue with your vehicle is caused by the fault indicated in the letter.
In fact you never actually stated that there was an issue with your vehicle...only you got the letter.
The dealer at least needs to check the vehicle to determine if it has an issue, and what the issue is. If the fault is covered by the letter, then they will not charge you any fees.
If the fault is not covered by the letter, then you pay the diagnostic fee, which they have to let you know about up front before beginning work on your vehicle.
If they didn't tell you about the diagnostic fee up front, and then they checked the vehicle and determined the fault was not covered by the letter, then they would be asking for their $271 after the fact.
Now you concern would be they are charging you a diagnostic fee that you didn't agree to up front.
Either way it's a lose lose situation for the dealer...you either upset about the fee up front or after the fact (if the fault was not covered by the letter).
The dealer doesn't have a crystal ball to see what is wrong with your vehicle before you bring it in for service...they still need to check it.
Because they don't know what's wrong with it until they check it, they also can't tell you if the letter will cover the repair.
I'm not sure what your reasonable expectation of the dealer was in this situation...and I'm sure everything above was probably told to you by the service manager already.
All the AC issues listed in the letter match the reality with my car and I am pretty sure that if diagnosed it would show that it is caused by faulty parts, so I would not have to pay anyway.
The point is that this is LEXUS fault. That they have to run a test or not it is not my problem and the burden is on them. OK, so the cost of running the diagnose is their loss...big deal, $15?...silly.
As I said, if they determined that the issue is not caused by faulty parts, they do not have to fix it and if they do if would be at my expenses. Actually, this would be a good way to earn more business for them.
Anyway, you are probably right and thank you for taking the time to explain to me how the system works. I hope that trust is never broken.
Cheers!
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