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P0A7F Diagnostic Code, Hybrid Battery Pack Deterioriation

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Old Jun 2, 2013 | 01:06 PM
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Default P0A7F Diagnostic Code, Hybrid Battery Pack Deterioriation

New to forums, any advice/help is greatly appreciated.
Looking for a 2007 Lexus GS 450h and found one at a dealer, price was below blue book.
Clean CarFax and maintained with lexus dealership.
I took the car to my mechanic and he used OBD reader and came up with code P0A7F. Print out says Hybrid Battery Pack Deterioration.

I asked dealer if he knew anything about this code, he said NO.
This car was at AutoNation, NOT a Lexus dealership. I called Lexus and they believe hybrid battery will need to be replaced BUT should be under warranty. They will charge $99 for diagnostic test even though I already know the code. THEN lexus will let me know if under warranty.

Questions:
1. IF dealer knows hybrid battery pack needs to be replaced, is he obligated to let buyer know?
They may have priced Lexus lower due to this issue.
2. Should I "walk away" from this deal? EVEN if I can get replaced under warranty?
3. I already spent $120 for mechanic to check out vehicle, then would be another $99 from Lexus, WORTH IT to have this done right when buying a used car?
4. How hard should I negotiate PRICE if battery needs to be replaced under warranty?
5. IF not under warranty, NO way am I buying car

I really like this car but or course, not in love with it. Possibly too good of a price to be true? Asking $22k then they add on dealer fee and "appearance fee" since they cleaned it. Other GS 450h in 100 mile radius are going for $24-27k.

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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 07:09 AM
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New to forums, any advice/help is greatly appreciated.
Looking for a 2007 Lexus GS 450h and found one at a dealer, price was below blue book.
Clean CarFax and maintained with lexus dealership.
I took the car to my mechanic and he used OBD reader and came up with code P0A7F. Print out says Hybrid Battery Pack Deterioration.

I asked dealer if he knew anything about this code, he said NO.
This car was at AutoNation, NOT a Lexus dealership. I called Lexus and they believe hybrid battery will need to be replaced BUT should be under warranty. They will charge $99 for diagnostic test even though I already know the code. THEN lexus will let me know if under warranty.

Questions:
1. IF dealer knows hybrid battery pack needs to be replaced, is he obligated to let buyer know?
They may have priced Lexus lower due to this issue.
2. Should I "walk away" from this deal? EVEN if I can get replaced under warranty?
3. I already spent $120 for mechanic to check out vehicle, then would be another $99 from Lexus, WORTH IT to have this done right when buying a used car?
4. How hard should I negotiate PRICE if battery needs to be replaced under warranty?
5. IF not under warranty, NO way am I buying car

I really like this car but or course, not in love with it. Possibly too good of a price to be true? Asking $22k then they add on dealer fee and "appearance fee" since they cleaned it. Other GS 450h in 100 mile radius are going for $24-27k.

Thanks
All toyota hybrid vehicles have a 8 year 120-150,000km warranty (or there about not sure about km)
I would be pushing for the inverter to be replaced and the main 12v Panasonic battery as well.
Then everything else is serviceable by any normal mechanic.
I have a 2007 gs450h and the batteries/inverter/12v batt were replaced at 125,000 and im now at 165,000 and no issues at all. Anything else wrong with it? My shocks were leaking and worn i have to replace those i wish i knew that when i bought it. Rear takes more of a beating with more weight i guess. If the motor is sound and all original panels (no accidents) then yeah go for it. I think people are just scared of 2nd hand hybrid cause they dont understand it. But im so glad i got this, i had a 2007 Ford FPV GT before this, a performance V8 and i dont miss it. (AU only model)
Read the https://www.clublexus.com/forums/hyb...roll-call.html
Few other ppl have had theirs changed too
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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 04:51 PM
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Good car, had thorough inspection with my mechanic. spark plugs and fluids fine. throttle body needs to be cleaned, new air filter. Other than that, never bought a car with 68k on it, but this is Lexus, hope to get much more miles. still debating.
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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 10:32 PM
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FYI. Hope this guides you in your decision. As most people have said here, if it's still under warranty, then you should be ok.
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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 07:44 AM
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Good Information MorganC, thanks
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I walked away from this deal. The dealership actually lowered price to try and unload car. I asked if I could take to Lexus to have them evaluate the diagnostic code. The dealer said, "We cannot have you taking this car all over town". I told him I took it to my mechanic first to do a look over and with this code beyond his capability. He said we have a 3-day money back guarantee. That was enough for me.

ON the brighter side, just bought a 2007 GS 350 with the works....very happy.
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TeslaModS
I walked away from this deal. The dealership actually lowered price to try and unload car. I asked if I could take to Lexus to have them evaluate the diagnostic code. The dealer said, "We cannot have you taking this car all over town". I told him I took it to my mechanic first to do a look over and with this code beyond his capability. He said we have a 3-day money back guarantee. That was enough for me.

ON the brighter side, just bought a 2007 GS 350 with the works....very happy.
Good choice! It's a really fun car to drive, but that dealership was giving you the run-around and the battery was probably toast. I mean, let's be honest, you could put an extra 2000miles on the car and it wouldn't mechanically or electrically depreciate it in any way.
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 11:28 AM
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Unreal! I was looking at the same white 450 at Autonation. I found your post and brought it up to the management at the dealership. They ended up replacing the hybrid battery and all components at Lexus of Palm Beach ( They own that dealership ) . I also received a new passenger side headlight/drl housing due to a small leak. I have to admit , the Autonation folks stepped up to the plate and took care of everything. I am LOVING my new car! Also, got it for under $21,000. Already replaced the ugly looking bulbs in the drl & driving lights with L.E.D.'s from iJDM toy. Looks much better. Thanks for all the members on this site for valuable information!:
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Old Aug 16, 2013 | 05:27 AM
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That's what I'm talking about, make them work for you.

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. They ended up replacing the hybrid battery and all components at Lexus.... received a new passenger side headlight/drl housing .I am LOVING my new car! Also, got it for under $21,000. :
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