Optimal Charging for Plug In Hybrids
Is there a recommended charging strategy for the RX 450H+ and other plug in hybrids.
I tend to run short errands and was plugging it in when at home. The engine has not run in 6 weeks.
This last charge, I exhausted the EV range and then plugged it in.
Is there a charging strategy that is recommended for optimal battery health?
- Rich
I tend to run short errands and was plugging it in when at home. The engine has not run in 6 weeks.
This last charge, I exhausted the EV range and then plugged it in.
Is there a charging strategy that is recommended for optimal battery health?
- Rich
I'll preface the following with the statement that Lexus has a 10 year 150k miles warranty on the traction battery and I am confident it will last at least that long in normal use.
It is commonly accepted that lithium batteries have the longest life span when kept between 40 and 60% of capacity. The RX450h+ shows a full charge at around 90% and zero miles EV range at around 12%. You can divide your max EV range by 2 to get your roughly 50% mark.
Personally, I target 60% for charging if the vehicle isn't going to be driven for a while. That leaves it with plenty of range for unexpected trips or the random 2-mile grocery run. If I know it's going to be driven further, I set the schedule for it to be fully charged at the beginning of the trip. During road-trips where I'm not charging the traction battery, I attempt to keep the battery around 60% using HV and Charge mode when necessary.
My reasoning is that, even though there is a warranty, the battery will still degrade faster if I leave it fully charged or discharged all the time, and that will mean a loss of range over time. It's worth my time to slow that degradation and loss of range down. So far, in 25k miles with about 1/4 of that being EV, I can detect no loss of range.
It is commonly accepted that lithium batteries have the longest life span when kept between 40 and 60% of capacity. The RX450h+ shows a full charge at around 90% and zero miles EV range at around 12%. You can divide your max EV range by 2 to get your roughly 50% mark.
Personally, I target 60% for charging if the vehicle isn't going to be driven for a while. That leaves it with plenty of range for unexpected trips or the random 2-mile grocery run. If I know it's going to be driven further, I set the schedule for it to be fully charged at the beginning of the trip. During road-trips where I'm not charging the traction battery, I attempt to keep the battery around 60% using HV and Charge mode when necessary.
My reasoning is that, even though there is a warranty, the battery will still degrade faster if I leave it fully charged or discharged all the time, and that will mean a loss of range over time. It's worth my time to slow that degradation and loss of range down. So far, in 25k miles with about 1/4 of that being EV, I can detect no loss of range.
Is there a recommended charging strategy for the RX 450H+ and other plug in hybrids.
I tend to run short errands and was plugging it in when at home. The engine has not run in 6 weeks.
This last charge, I exhausted the EV range and then plugged it in.
Is there a charging strategy that is recommended for optimal battery health?
- Rich
I tend to run short errands and was plugging it in when at home. The engine has not run in 6 weeks.
This last charge, I exhausted the EV range and then plugged it in.
Is there a charging strategy that is recommended for optimal battery health?
- Rich
while this reply might not be exactly on topic, I will respond that when I use all the hybrid battery I charge it. So 1/2 discharge, wait. Full discharge, plug it in.
I am getting 38-43 miles pure electric range.
And how is it that your 12v battery hasn’t completely drained. (I ask with incredible curiosity). I purchased a 2025 450h+ three weeks ago and have had to charge the 12v battery 3 times with a trickle charger. Based on other threads, I purchased and installed a battery monitor. The voltage drops to under 12.1v in 5 days. The SOC goes from 100% to 30% in the same timeframe. I took it to the dealer and have been told to: drive 30-40 mile trips 3 times a week to charge the 12v battery. Even with a 40 mile trip, there is a net loss of voltage.
while this reply might not be exactly on topic, I will respond that when I use all the hybrid battery I charge it. So 1/2 discharge, wait. Full discharge, plug it in.
I am getting 38-43 miles pure electric range.
while this reply might not be exactly on topic, I will respond that when I use all the hybrid battery I charge it. So 1/2 discharge, wait. Full discharge, plug it in.
I am getting 38-43 miles pure electric range.
In wider, 30 is a stretch.
My 2025 450H+ is garaged, I don't know if that matters. The phone based key is not installed, I don't use ACC mode, and the iPhone background refresh is off for the Lexus app.
Other than that, I have no idea why it is not giving me any trouble.
- Rich
I also drive at least every 2 days, mostly short trips. I do not intentionally leave it plugged into the charger, but occasionally overnight.
Recently, I went away for 8 days with the car unplugged with no issues.
I don't think the Lexus App is a drain, and it permits you to remote start which is in EV mode, that is reported to charge. That would be interesting.'
It might be worth a try, maybe it keeps doing something dumb when it can't communicate with the App.
- Rich
Couple of additional good points that you mention. I also do not leave the car plugged into the charger. (I had read that might cause some drain issues).
Kind of a chicken and egg situation with a monitor.if I don’t have it, then how do I know about the drain. Letting the battery die doesn’t seem very viable. I guess I could go out every few days and test with a voltmeter, All part of the troubleshooting process I guess. I’ll give the Lexus app a try also. I sure would like to enjoy the car instead of worrying about the battery dying at the wrong time.
thanks for the feedback and tip(s)
Glenn
Kind of a chicken and egg situation with a monitor.if I don’t have it, then how do I know about the drain. Letting the battery die doesn’t seem very viable. I guess I could go out every few days and test with a voltmeter, All part of the troubleshooting process I guess. I’ll give the Lexus app a try also. I sure would like to enjoy the car instead of worrying about the battery dying at the wrong time.
thanks for the feedback and tip(s)
Glenn
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The monitor has very little impact compared to the vehicle parasitic draw. I have bluetooth monitors on all of my cars now and the RX is the only one that discharges so quickly. My '07 Focus took a month to drop from 12.59 to 12.29. That's with a battery that is 5 years and 7 months old.
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