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Acrad 06-17-17 01:59 PM

MOD: Crawl Control (CC) and Multi Terrain Select (MTS)
 
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Crawl Control and Multi-Terrain Select (MTS) retrofit on '10-'19 GX 460 / all trimsWhat parts do I need?

PN: 859A1-60020 - 2010-2013 Multi Terrain Select (MTS) for any trim
(Amayama)
(IMPEX)
(Megazip)
(Motors Head Japan
(OEMVehicleparts)
PN: 859A1-60040 - 2014-2019 Multi Terrain Select (MTS) for any trim
(Megazip)
(OEMVehicleparts
PN: 84970-60070 - 2010-2019 crawl control for AVS/RAHC (adjustable shocks/rear air bag models)
(Amayama)
(Carmarka)
(Megazip)
(OEMVehicleparts)
PN: 84970-60090 - 2010-2019 crawl control for non-AVS/RAHC (adjustable shocks/rear air bag models) or vehicles in which stock AVS/RAHC has been removed
(Megazip)
(OEMVehicleparts)
https://www.oemvehicleparts.com/ - CODE: GXORFIFTYOFF23 for 50% off “Shipping” / code can be used for any non-oversized Toyota/Lexus part(s) order (Parts sourced from JM Lexus in Margate, FL)


Veliksam posted these informative installation videos:




[MTS]
2010-2013
Part Number: 859A1-60020
Part Name: Computer, Driving Support Switch Control
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[MTS]
2014-2019
Part Number: 859A1-60040
Part Name: Computer, Driving Support Switch Control
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[Crawl for NON AVS/RAHC models]-You only have DAC & 4L/4H switch
2010-2019
Part Number: 84970-60090
Part Name: Combo Switch
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[Crawl for AVS/RAHC models]-You have DAC, 4L/4H, SPORT/COMF, Heigh Adjustment, and OFF Button
2010-2019
Part Number: 84970-60070
Part Name: Combo Switch



2020 retrofit is not known at this time.

Update: 10.19.2019: Detailed MTS install instructions from JayPixelGX

Update: 9.15.2019 - Good video for ZPC using OBD wire method




PN: 84970-60090
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••Do not utilize your VIN when searching out this mod on parts sites as you may receive the incorrect part.

•••••If you have trouble... this quote from Coinball may help.

"To get the VSC light to go away (in lieu of making another video), you need to press the Crawl Control on/off button BEFORE clicking the final Exit button in the ABS test. You'll get the warning the CC isn't available unless you're in P or D and 4L (on the cluster display), and you'll be good to go from there."

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FAQ for adding Crawl Control and MTS (last updated 2.25.2019)

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• MTS and/or Crawl can be added to any model year or trim GX 460

• MTS can be installed by itself - plug and play module swap

• Crawl can be installed by itself - in addition to console switch you need to do a zero point calibration

• Crawl and MTS can obviously be installed together as well.

• MTS is NOT included with US 460's optioned with Crawl Control but Canadian top tier models include MTS with their Crawl optioned models

• If you don't have adaptive suspension (AVS) or rear air bags AHC on your 460 you will end up with two dummy switches. Here is an option that Nickk6 did on his. (Post #623)

• Land Cruiser and LX 570 didn't get 5 speed crawl control capability like this mod until 2013 model year. It was previously 3 speed only.

• "VSC Off" light activation during Crawl or MTS activation after installation is normal with use

Do not utilize your VIN when searching out this mod as you may receive the incorrect part.


[Part Numbers]

[MTS]
2010-2013
Part Number: 859A1-60020
Via Japan
Part Name: Computer, Driving Support Switch Control
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[MTS]2014-2019
Part Number: 859A1-60040
Part Name: Computer, Driving Support Switch Control
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[Crawl for NON AVS/RAHC models]
2010-2019
Part Number: 84970-60090
Part Name: Combo Switch
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[Crawl for AVS/RAHC models]
2010-2019
Part Number: 84970-60070
Part Name: Combo Switch


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No Sales Tax either.

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Calibration Guide Download
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•••••Detailed Removal of dash components including the knee airbag / used for Remote start Install (Do not do Fig 1-2, 1-4 or 1-5)


(Thanks tecman)
(Thanks coinball)
Zero Point OBD method example on FJ . / Momentary contact button that might make this method easier
Techstream Zero Point Calibration screenshots
Glovebox disassembly #1
Glovebox disassembly #2 / Driver support computer location
Glovebox disassembly #3
Wiring and removal of for console switch and Driver Support Computer
Console Switch suggestions
Operational - Crawl Control
Operational - MTS (Multi Terrain Select)

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Internal pics of a 080 switch which lacks crawl function (Post #259)



4Runner conversion

FJ Conversion (no known conversions)

•••••If you have trouble... this quote from Coinball may help.

"To get the VSC light to go away (in lieu of making another video), you need to press the Crawl Control on/off button BEFORE clicking the final Exit button in the ABS test. You'll get the warning the CC isn't available unless you're in P or D and 4L (on the cluster display), and you'll be good to go from there."


••• Make sure your GX battery is in good condition and fully charged before attempting the zero point calibration. Turn off all unnecessary accessories. If unsure you may need to perform while vehicle is running.

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Acrad 06-18-17 01:34 PM

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bbqsoup 11-15-17 08:15 AM

Crawl control can be used on both up and downhill right? Is DAC for downhill only? I’m curious how steep is the downhill angle it needs to be? A readon for me to head to the local road park (Hollister Hills) and try. Lol

Surfishing 11-15-17 01:28 PM

Personally, I would consider adding a rear locker before adding CRAWL.

Acrad 11-15-17 02:43 PM

bbqsoup: Correct DAC is downhill only. It should take much downhill angle to be live.

Surfishing: I hear ya on the CRAWL... if it was just the BCM and the panel and cost less than $500 I might be game but one would probably be in a couple thousand as a guinea pig... just throwing the idea out there for some young lad to try out in the next few years who pieces it together with parts from wrecks.


Acrad 01-06-18 11:52 AM

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/gx-...l#post10073791

Notice one probably needs this "Driver Support Switch Control ECU". I think I saw one within the last few months for like $30 as a used part on eBay.


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kingtux 01-06-18 02:39 PM

Anyone ever contacted the dealer on this?

Acrad 01-06-18 02:48 PM


Acrad 01-27-18 04:01 AM

ObsidianBl posted some good info from that Russian thread.

Not seeing BCM or master cylinder listed to make it go live. All speculation but potentially obtainable for less than $600 retail.

I'm gathering from translation that anyone who has Park Assist has the following support module behind the glove box.

---> 859A1-60010

Multi-terrain select and crawl need module 859A1-60020

Switch assembly with Crawl ON/OFF button and speed control to replace DAC button is ---> 84970-60070



hzhao 01-27-18 04:31 AM


Originally Posted by Acrad35751 (Post 10094950)
ObsidianBl posted some good info from that Russian thread.

Not seeing BCM or master cylinder listed to make it go live. All speculation but potentially obtainable for less than $600 retail.

I'm gathering from translation that anyone who has Park Assist has the following support module behind the glove box.

---> 859A1-60010

Multi-terrain select and crawl need module 859A1-60020

Switch assembly with Crawl ON/OFF button and speed control to replace DAC button is ---> 84970-60070

If I understood this correctly, there is pre-wired harnesses already for the crawl and speed control switches, as well as the connectors for 859A1-60020 (assume that will accommodate additional connectors for crawl control), right? For those who had remove the console switch panel for other mods, maybe able to chime in to see if there has additional harness existed. That would be interesting if it can be added easily.

Acrad 01-27-18 05:15 AM


It would appear so. The console switch is a big question though.

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Pictures of a non-AVS/airbag switch (84970-60100) / Trying to track down pics of switches to see if connector is the same for all models.
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hzhao 01-27-18 05:29 AM

Definitely interested to know. I guess sooner or later, I would made my wife's GX become a metal brick :D:D:D:D:D:D

kingtux 01-27-18 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by hzhao (Post 10094981)
Definitely interested to know. I guess sooner or later, I would made my wife's GX become a metal brick :D:D:D:D:D:D

I'll be watching this thread like a hawk!!

Acrad 01-27-18 09:38 AM

Some of this has probably been stated in other threads. Obviously just more information gathering. Most vehicles I have seen seem to have the full array of Driver Support options if equipped.

It is worth noting the following variations from the 2010 & 2011 model year brochures:

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2012 shows this
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2013 shows this:

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Here is an interesting note in 2011 brochure

Wide view monitor, Crawl Control and Intuitive Parking Assist could be purchased as a standalone option. Is this a unicorn? Maybe..but it seems like similar feature-set to what the Russian thread was talking about.

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Here is my real conspiracy theory stretch.... Is there already a support switch module in dash next to my glove box since I have Intuitive Parking Assist? and the other features go live if devices are connected? Could it just be the console switch I am missing? Nothing could be that simple.

Notice in the 4Runner conversion article:

http://tctmagazine.net/spring-2016/2...ntrol-retrofit

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Much of the work done in that conversion occurred because he didn't have the physical MTS switch. This MTS (multi-terrain select) selection & display is all done on the center gauge display on the GX. It is just display on the 4Runner.

It may be more plug and play on the GX than implementation on 4Runner.

Just throwing ideas out there

hzhao 01-27-18 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by Acrad35751 (Post 10095162)
Some of this has probably been stated in other threads. Obviously just more information gathering. Most vehicles I have seen seem to have the full array of Driver Support options if equipped.

Here is my real conspiracy theory stretch.... Is there already a support switch module in dash next to my glove box since I have Intuitive Parking Assist? and the other features go live if devices are connected? Could it just be the console switch I am missing? Nothing could be that simple.

Notice in the 4Runner conversion article:

http://tctmagazine.net/spring-2016/2...ntrol-retrofit

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.clu...afd593c167.png


Much of the work done in that conversion occurred because he didn't have the physical MTS switch. This MTS (multi-terrain select) selection & display is all done on the center gauge display on the GX. It is just display on the 4Runner.

It may be more plug and play on the GX than implementation on 4Runner.

Just throwing ideas out there

You could be right. I guess the easiest way to know is the see how the connectors behind console with panel between with or without crawl control. If there is a reasonable priced switch panel available, and existing wire harnesses seems fit, I will definitely try to see what happens.


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